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    Re: The 2014 Nobel Prize in Physics - Press Release

    Politicians have turned the Nobel Prize into a farce.
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    Re: The 2014 Nobel Prize in Physics - Press Release

    Quote Originally Posted by RDS View Post
    I bet they had Thomas Edison in mind when they won the prize.
    I reads something to the effect that the reason Edison and Tesla never got the prize was that one could hardly be awarded without the other, but that the two men hated each other so much that it was feared they would disrupt the occasion by getting into a fist fight.

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    Re: The 2014 Nobel Prize in Physics - Press Release

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    If one is an inventor, there is arguably no better inspiration than Thomas Edison. Edison was one of history's most prolific inventors. Not everything panned out, but his electric light proved to be basic innovation that was transformational.

    There were other people working on the same technology Edison was, including the Light bulb.

    Edison just beat them to the punch.

    Tesla was a far more brilliant and innovative inventor. He also had a eidetic memory.

    DC power transmission ( what Edison was pushing for ) over long distances is not practical or even feasible.

    In a DC Circuit the electron have to make a complete and unidirectional path, from the source, through the load and then to ground.

    If we had stuck with Edison's idea of DC power distribution we would have had to run massive conductors to Sub-stations that were no more than a few miles apart.

    EVERY motor would have had to be commutated. That means regular disassembly of the Commutator section for brush replacements.


    Tesla's discovered the properties of Induction. Using the alternating collapsing Electro magnetic field of a primary Coil to transfer ( induce ) AC current into a secondary Coil.


    Also his invention of the induction Motor was absolutely revolutionary.

    Thanks to his inventions large amounts of power could be transferred over thousands of miles through Conductors that were no more than a inch in diameter.

    High voltage could then be transferred into Substations, through Large transformers and then out to homes and businesses where it could be stepped down again as a useful source of energy.

    The Car manufacturer Telsa used his name to build a over engineered Golf Cart thats powered by DC.

    They should have named the Tesla the Eddison.

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    Re: The 2014 Nobel Prize in Physics - Press Release

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Politicians have turned the Nobel Prize into a farce.
    Politicians have no influence on Nobel Prize selection, and the scientific awards are for the most part well-deserved.

    It is true, however, that numerous Peace Prize laureates who have been politicians or unelected government officials were so undeserving that their selection might properly be termed a farce. Obama is a prime example. I will bet the Nobel selection committee will be kicking itself in the ass for years over that one!
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    Re: The 2014 Nobel Prize in Physics - Press Release

    Quote Originally Posted by USViking View Post
    I reads something to the effect that the reason Edison and Tesla never got the prize was that one could hardly be awarded without the other, but that the two men hated each other so much that it was feared they would disrupt the occasion by getting into a fist fight.
    Interesting reading that must have been. It could also be that the Nobel Prize was first awarded in 1901, after Edison and Tesla had their battle over competing currents.

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    Re: The 2014 Nobel Prize in Physics - Press Release

    Quote Originally Posted by USViking View Post
    I reads something to the effect that the reason Edison and Tesla never got the prize was that one could hardly be awarded without the other, but that the two men hated each other so much that it was feared they would disrupt the occasion by getting into a fist fight.

    Tesla had good reason to hate Edison

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    Re: The 2014 Nobel Prize in Physics - Press Release

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    That a solution might have been relatively "simple," does not mean that the breakthrough was insignificant. As the press release noted:

    They succeeded where everyone else had failed. Akasaki worked together with Amano at the University of Nagoya, while Nakamura was employed at Nichia Chemicals, a small company in Tokushima. Their inventions were revolutionary.

    The more detailed explanation can be found here: http://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_priz...sprize2014.pdf



    Technology and understanding advance. Inventions can and do become obsolete. They can also become building blocks for future innovations. One cannot automatically assume that a given inventor would have preferred that progress cease. A quote attributed to Edison was, "Its obvious that we don't know one millionth of one percent about anything." That leaves much room for future discovery.
    But we have the advantage of knowing what the limitations were to what Edison was proposing.

    DC transmission over large distances is still not practical or feasable.

    Anything thats powered by DC, from your flat screen TV to your Computer to the LED light bulbs have to have a DC power supply built into them.

    DC power is still only feasible on a local scale.

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    Re: The 2014 Nobel Prize in Physics - Press Release

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Politicians have turned the Nobel Prize into a farce.
    I still think the Science prizes have value, What happens is the time between the work and
    the award is so long that people forget how great the contribution was.
    I saw Dr. Norman Ramsey speak, after he received his Nobel prize, for
    work done almost 40 years earlier.

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    Re: The 2014 Nobel Prize in Physics - Press Release

    Congratulations Sheldon Cooper.

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    Re: The 2014 Nobel Prize in Physics - Press Release

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    Congratulations Sheldon Cooper.

    Lol !!

    Sheldon Cooper would be throwing an absolute fit right about now.

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