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    Re: **BREAKING** U.S. Supreme Court Refuses to Rule on Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    You say they have "every authority"? How so? We know the complete history of the 13th, 14th, and 14th amendments. It's no mystery what they are for. And gay marriage isn't part of it.

    The South lost the Civil War, which decided slavery and whether or not States can just leave the Union whenever they want. State governments are not more limited in the laws they can enact than they were before the Civil War. If that's what you mean? I'm not sure of what it is you are saying.
    The 14th amendment doesn't say it applies to race.
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    Re: **BREAKING** U.S. Supreme Court Refuses to Rule on Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Yes, state governments are more limited, whether they like it or not. The Civil War was about more than slavery afterall. It was based on states' rights being supreme, over the federal government and individuals. They lost that fight. Individual rights trump state rights up to the point where the state can show a law/restriction furthers a legitimate state interest.
    It didn't change the Constitution, it was enforced. There's nothing in there about States rights being supreme. It's more States and the people vs. the Federal government. And the Federal government only has power if the Constitution gives it to them, the people and States have power unless the Constitution states they don't.
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    Re: **BREAKING** U.S. Supreme Court Refuses to Rule on Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    It didn't change the Constitution, it was enforced. There's nothing in there about States rights being supreme. It's more States and the people vs. the Federal government. And the Federal government only has power if the Constitution gives it to them, the people and States have power unless the Constitution states they don't.
    On this issue, it is states vs the people, specifically people who are having their rights oppressed by the states.
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    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    Re: **BREAKING** U.S. Supreme Court Refuses to Rule on Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    The 14th amendment doesn't say it applies to race.
    It doesn't say you can marry a person of the same sex either.
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    Re: **BREAKING** U.S. Supreme Court Refuses to Rule on Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    On this issue, it is states vs the people, specifically people who are having their rights oppressed by the states.
    You are skipping a part, you are assuming that the right already exists.
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    Re: **BREAKING** U.S. Supreme Court Refuses to Rule on Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    You are skipping a part, you are assuming that the right already exists.
    It does. It is the right to equal protection of the laws, including laws of marriage. 14th Amendment.
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    Re: **BREAKING** U.S. Supreme Court Refuses to Rule on Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    It doesn't say you can marry a person of the same sex either.
    Since it is there to restrict the government, specifically state governments, then that would mean it is covers same sex couples getting married, the same as it did interracial couples and people behind on child support trying to get married and people in prison trying to get married.
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    Re: **BREAKING** U.S. Supreme Court Refuses to Rule on Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    It doesn't say you can marry a person of the same sex either.
    So you think overturning interracial marriage bans was outside the power of SCOTUS.
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    Re: **BREAKING** U.S. Supreme Court Refuses to Rule on Gay Marriage

    Repubs fell on the wrong side of this one. A marriage is a contract that encompasses many other contracts. And the repubs claim they want the gov out of our business, but not on this issue. And I hope all the anger the gay community has on this is not for a title.

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    Re: **BREAKING** U.S. Supreme Court Refuses to Rule on Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    It does. It is the right to equal protection of the laws, including laws of marriage. 14th Amendment.
    What protection are they not getting that I am?
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