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    Re: **BREAKING** U.S. Supreme Court Refuses to Rule on Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Ok, seriously, I hate to be that Godwin guy, but holy ****ing **** dude. Get yourself some help. This sort of language is straight out of every precursor to genocide in history.
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    Re: **BREAKING** U.S. Supreme Court Refuses to Rule on Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    After the "Loving" case, was there some consensus that now gay marriage was also unquestioned? I missed it. And before "Loving" marriage was only between a man and a woman. After "Loving", it was between... a man... and... a woman. Oh, no change. So that applies to gays how again?

    Jeez, what happened? I'll tell you what happened. "Loving" did not change marriage at all. It just enforced the Constitution and amendments that forbid racial discrimination. You know what it said about gays? Nothing.

    So, why don't we just make this gay marriage thing ironclad? Why isn't there even the slightest push for a Constitutional amendment? I would support it 100% if that was done. So, why not? Why beat around the bush with all these court cases and votes? I'd really like to hear an answer on that one.
    Where's the amendment? When is it coming?
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    Re: **BREAKING** U.S. Supreme Court Refuses to Rule on Gay Marriage

    Well Alaska was granted equal rights today!!!

    Well that makes THIRTY!!!!!
    I remember people saying it will never be more than 12? Well its more than double that now and 5 more will be falling soon do to federal appellate court precedent.

    Changes/Updates in RED
    10/12/2014 Version 17.0

    30 States with Equal Rights 5falling soon due to federal court precedent and 10 Stayed/Appealed/Pending

    30 States with Equal Rights

    Massachusetts - May 17, 2004
    Connecticut - November 12, 2008
    Iowa - April 27, 2009
    Vermont - September 1, 2009
    New Hampshire - January 1, 2010
    Washing D.C. - March 9, 2010
    FALL OF DADT Dec 18, 2010
    New York - July 24, 2011
    Washington - December 6, 2012
    Maine - December 29, 2012
    Maryland - January 1, 2013
    FALL OF DOMA - June 26, 2013
    California - June 28, 2013
    Delaware - July 1, 2013
    Rhode Island - August 1, 2013
    Minnesota - August 1, 2013
    New Jersey - October 21, 2013
    Illinois - (ruled on Nov 20th 2013) June 1, 2014 effective
    Hawaii - December 2, 2013
    New Mexico – December 19, 2013
    GSK v. Abbott Laboratories - January 21, 2014 (could be huge in gay rights, discrimination/heightened scrutiny)
    Oregon May 19, 2014
    Pennsylvania May 20, 2014
    Utah Oct. 6, 2014
    Oklahoma Oct. 6, 2014
    Virginia Oct. 6, 2014
    Wisconsin Oct 6,. 2014
    Indiana Oct 6, 2014
    Colorado Oct 7, 2014
    Nevada Oct. 9, 2014
    West Virginia Oct. 9, 2014
    North Carolina Oct. 10, 2014
    Idaho - May Oct 10, 2014
    Alaska – Oct 13, 2014

    5Will fall soon due to federal appellate court precedent.
    Arizona
    Kansas
    Montana
    South Carolina
    Wyoming

    7 Stayed/Appealed/Pending
    Arkansas - May 5, 2014 (Stayed)
    Florida - July 17th, 2014
    Kentucky - February 14, 2014 (Must recognize out-of-state marriages which will lead to their ban being defeated)
    Michigan - March 21, 2014 (Stayed)
    Ohio - April, 2014 Trial had narrow ruling that Ohio will recognize OTHER state marriages but didn’t impact bans. New cases expected.
    Tennessee March, 2014 (Direct US Constitution Challenge)(Prilim in and 3 couples are recognized, later broader ruling coming)
    Texas - February 26, 2014 (Stayed)

    8 States Working Towards Equal Rights

    7 States with Pending Court Cases to Establish Equal Rights
    Alabama
    Georgia
    Louisiana
    Mississippi
    Nebraska
    North Dakota
    South Dakota

    1 States with Court Cases and Legislation to establish Equal Rights
    Missouri


    thats 50 states that could have equal rights by 2016 and some much sooner!

    US Court of Appeals Tracker
    Map: Court Locator
    1st - all states have equal rights
    2nd - all states have equal rights
    3rd - pending
    4th - ruled for equal rights, states to fall shortly
    5th- pending
    6th - pending
    7th- ruled for equal rights, states to fall shortly
    8th- nothing pending, talks of two cases
    9th- pending (statement released "as soon as possible")
    10th - ruled for equal rights, states to fall shortly
    11th - pending



    State Attorney Generals no longer defending the bans due to their unconstitutionality
    California (Has equal rights now)
    Illinois (Has Equal rights now)
    Kentucky
    Nevada
    Oregon (has equal rights now)
    Pennsylvania(has equal rights now)
    Virginia(stayed)

    THERE ARE NO STATES LEFT NOT FIGHTING FOR EQUAL RIGHTS

    #EqualRightsAreWinning!!!!!!!!!!!!

    also please feel free to let me know of any corrections or updates that need made, equality is kicking so much ass its hard to keep up, thanks

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    Re: **BREAKING** U.S. Supreme Court Refuses to Rule on Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Lakryte View Post
    My claim is that legal kinship can be provided through private contract without any significant expense, and a marriage license is not required. None of the above refutes that.
    And I told you to do it. Start a business specializing in that contract. Offer all the same rights and benefits with less hassle and less cost. You'll run the government out of the marriage business with your superior product. Free market at work, right? Do it, if you think it's superior to what we have now. Cheaper and easier, that's what will get people to flock to you.

    It's possible, right?
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: **BREAKING** U.S. Supreme Court Refuses to Rule on Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    Just want to defend freedom and the Constitution from her kind.
    Defend your freedom to suppress the freedom of others. Defend the freedom for the government to restrict the choices of the individual. Yeah, I'm sure that's what the constitution is about.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: **BREAKING** U.S. Supreme Court Refuses to Rule on Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Defend your freedom to suppress the freedom of others. Defend the freedom for the government to restrict the choices of the individual. Yeah, I'm sure that's what the constitution is about.
    If you think that being against another person demanding handouts from the rest of us is suppressing their freedom, well that's just a complete disconnect from reality.
    You have a serious lack of understanding of what freedom and Constitution mean.
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    Re: **BREAKING** U.S. Supreme Court Refuses to Rule on Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    Where's the amendment? When is it coming?
    We didnt need one for marriage as it stands now....why do we need one for SSM? Esp if they are the same institutions? One we are attempting to open up to end discrimination of gays.

    Are you suggesting expanding the govt? Bigger govt? NO! It cant be!
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    Re: **BREAKING** U.S. Supreme Court Refuses to Rule on Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    We didnt need one for marriage as it stands now....why do we need one for SSM? Esp if they are the same institutions? One we are attempting to open up to end discrimination of gays.

    Are you suggesting expanding the govt? Bigger govt? NO! It cant be!
    I don't see any way that expands government. It restricts what it can do with marriage, by clearly spelling it out. That's just a glaring lack of understanding. We have amendments that increase government power, but this would not be one. We certainly need a few amendments to reel government back in.
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    Re: **BREAKING** U.S. Supreme Court Refuses to Rule on Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    I don't see any way that expands government. It restricts what it can do with marriage, by clearly spelling it out. That's just a glaring lack of understanding. We have amendments that increase government power, but this would not be one. We certainly need a few amendments to reel government back in.
    An amendment, expanding the definition of marriage, would 'reel' the govt back in?
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    Re: **BREAKING** U.S. Supreme Court Refuses to Rule on Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    An amendment, expanding the definition of marriage, would 'reel' the govt back in?
    yep thats what was said, try to hold a straight face.
    somehow more RULES, more RESTRICTIONS, less FREEDOM and LESS rights is magically less government lol
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