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    Re: **BREAKING** U.S. Supreme Court Refuses to Rule on Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Nor will any ruling from the SCOTUS on same sex marriage. Same sex couples can already get married in over half the states in the US. It is quite possible that by the time the SCOTUS does take on a case pertaining to state same sex marriage bans (that it doesn't punt, again), there will be more states that allow same sex couples to marry than there were states that allowed interracial couples to marry when Loving was decided.

    My state didn't even have a ruling yet for the same sex marriage cases here in NC, but now we do, after the SCOTUS refused the cases that reached them so far. Since the Circuit Court covering my state already struck down the laws in VA, it only took a ruling by the judge to strike it down here as well.

    It should hit 35, which outnumbers pro-interracial marriage states at Loving, within the next few months, certainly before the next time SCOTUS might review another case pertaining to same sex marriage.

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    Alaska is likely going to make it 30 (once the legal extras are decided).

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    Re: **BREAKING** U.S. Supreme Court Refuses to Rule on Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Yes. That has been my point.
    What? That same sex marriage is mirroring interracial marriage, just at a faster pace? Because that is what is happening. It may not continue, since we don't know what the SCOTUS will do, but so far, it has been pretty similar.
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    Re: **BREAKING** U.S. Supreme Court Refuses to Rule on Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    What? That same sex marriage is mirroring interracial marriage, just at a faster pace? Because that is what is happening. It may not continue, since we don't know what the SCOTUS will do, but so far, it has been pretty similar.
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    Re: **BREAKING** U.S. Supreme Court Refuses to Rule on Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    SCOTUS has followed the surest, swiftest path to marriage equality.
    Not quite, but it should happen soon unless by some miracle the other few Circuit Courts actually just strike down the marriage bans themselves, something I just don't see happening. I think at least one of those left will side with the states, but we'll see.
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    Re: **BREAKING** U.S. Supreme Court Refuses to Rule on Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Not quite, but it should happen soon unless by some miracle the other few Circuit Courts actually just strike down the marriage bans themselves, something I just don't see happening. I think at least one of those left will side with the states, but we'll see.
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    Re: **BREAKING** U.S. Supreme Court Refuses to Rule on Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    It's over. No one wants to go down in history as the last holdout.
    Eh. People can be stupid and stubborn.
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    Re: **BREAKING** U.S. Supreme Court Refuses to Rule on Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    SCOTUS has followed the surest, swiftest path to marriage equality.
    SCOTUS taking the case and making a single ruling that applies to every state in the union could be faster.

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    It's over. No one wants to go down in history as the last holdout.

    Rhetoric from some of the GOP and some of the redder state governors/AGs seems to indicate otherwise. The tears of rage and absurdly hyperbolic language have continued with this latest ruling.
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    Re: **BREAKING** U.S. Supreme Court Refuses to Rule on Gay Marriage

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    SCOTUS taking the case and making a single ruling that applies to every state in the union could be faster.




    Rhetoric from some of the GOP and some of the redder state governors/AGs seems to indicate otherwise. The tears of rage and absurdly hyperbolic language have continued with this latest ruling.
    Had SCOTUS taken the case for the Fall 2014 docket there would be no ruling before June 2015 and all cases would come to full stop until then. Now, marriages are going forward and state laws are being set aside.
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    Re: **BREAKING** U.S. Supreme Court Refuses to Rule on Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Had SCOTUS taken the case for the Fall 2014 docket there would be no ruling before June 2015 and all cases would come to full stop until then. Now, marriages are going forward and state laws are being set aside.
    There are still about 15 or so states under a Circuit Court that hasn't made a ruling on this issue yet, with at least two of those Courts being said to lean toward siding with the states' bans.
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    Re: **BREAKING** U.S. Supreme Court Refuses to Rule on Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    They are not needed for most people so long as marriage is available. Marriage is efficient for most couples, and quite inexpensive.

    The government would still get to decide which contracts were recognized and who got precedent over legal family, the same as they do now in those states that do not recognize same sex marriages and there have been cases of same sex partners getting screwed over by the courts and legal kin of their loved one.
    My claim is that legal kinship can be provided through private contract without any significant expense, and a marriage license is not required. None of the above refutes that.
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