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    Re: **BREAKING** U.S. Supreme Court Refuses to Rule on Gay Marriage

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    yeah thanks, i figured he wasn't worth my time to put together a more detailed argument. We both could link to dozens of articles and police reports on soldiers discharged under DADT, assaults, school expulsion etc etc, but he won't even bother to read and will just hold fingers to ears, so screw it.
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    Re: **BREAKING** U.S. Supreme Court Refuses to Rule on Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Day 4 and still not a peep from DP's resident homophobe. I'm shocked...I tell ya....shocked. Could it be that he has finally come to the realization that he and his ilk have been defeated?
    think it's more likely he can't gloat and gay bash in this thread. I'd bet good $ on him making the first thread if/when the circuit 6 court upholds the ban, then once again remaining silent when scotus overturns that.

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    Re: **BREAKING** U.S. Supreme Court Refuses to Rule on Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by SENSIBLE PATRIO View Post
    Show me the right to marry for same sex couples, also show me the results of those elections where states voted to ban ssm and we will talk about 1 elected official subverting the will of the people
    Show me the right for two people of different IQs to marry or two people of different heights, weights, economic statuses, races.

    The will of the simple majority at a single instance in time (when a vote was taken) is not the main governing interest of the US. Freedom is. We are not a direct democracy. Government, including laws voted on directly by the people (a bad idea anyway), are still limited by the US Constitution, and that means freedoms and rights win over when the people cannot show a legitimate state interest furthered by a law or restriction.
    "A woman is like a teabag, you never know how strong she is until she gets in hot water." - Eleanor Roosevelt

    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    Re: **BREAKING** U.S. Supreme Court Refuses to Rule on Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    There is now. The context was the relationship between older court cases and the current stream. The abbreviation SSM is useful in that context to keep the discussion clear.
    Only if we also say "there was no right to interracial marriage until the Loving decision". In reality, this is not really true. The SCOTUS merely recognized that the right did exist and by doing so struck down the laws against it as unconstitutional.

    Adding descriptive information in front of something doesn't make it something else, at least not for something like this. The marriages according to the law are still the same. They still work the same way whether they are opposite sex marriages or same sex marriages, interracial marriage or intraracial marriages, interfaith marriage or same faith marriages or even no faith marriages.
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    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    Re: **BREAKING** U.S. Supreme Court Refuses to Rule on Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Proposed is not established.
    Reread what that was responding to. In post 487 (I believe), you claimed that it was "proposed" in the last 20 years. That simply isn't true. It was proposed longer ago than that.

    I never said anything about being established, at least not in this country.
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    Re: **BREAKING** U.S. Supreme Court Refuses to Rule on Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    The institution of heterosexual marriage is thousands (perhaps tens of thousands) of years old. That's the difference.
    And so is same sex marriage, even if it is not nearly as prevalent as opposite sex marriage.
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    Re: **BREAKING** U.S. Supreme Court Refuses to Rule on Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    That is an incomprehensible assertion. The evolution of attitudes on same sex marriage, from dismissal to acceptance in a generation, is the most far reaching and rapid shift in history.
    So what? The most likely reason for this is our rapid advancements in technology in the last two decades that have allowed for the exponential flow and exchange of information, particularly among young people, which leads to better understanding and thus greater acceptance of things that are different or have been considered "deviant" or "wrong" in the past. It isn't that hard to figure out why the change has happened at the rate it has, technology.
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    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    Re: **BREAKING** U.S. Supreme Court Refuses to Rule on Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    Wow, that's funny. I heard the show too, and he explained things in great detail.
    I only heard it from about 330 to 400. He said smeting about the a violation of the 10th amendment, but I didn't hear him go into any detail: what'd he say about it all?

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    Re: **BREAKING** U.S. Supreme Court Refuses to Rule on Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    Please tell me of one woman who uses birth control without a man? There are some that are prescribed The Pill for medical purposes but otherwise, ALL bc is used equally by men and women...but women are stuck with purchasing most of it. Men benefit equally from bc.
    What does that have to do with anything? I remember that Sandra Fluck whining before Congress about how badly she need fre contraception while attending Georgetown Law school.
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    Re: **BREAKING** U.S. Supreme Court Refuses to Rule on Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Okey dokey Annie Oakley. As I said, I'm already getting what I want. You're the one who's going to have to come to terms with the new ways.
    No I really don't

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