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    Re: **BREAKING** U.S. Supreme Court Refuses to Rule on Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    There is now. The context was the relationship between older court cases and the current stream. The abbreviation SSM is useful in that context to keep the discussion clear.
    Before the first legal marriage contract, heterosexual marriage had never been a legal institution either. So?
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: **BREAKING** U.S. Supreme Court Refuses to Rule on Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Before the first legal marriage contract, heterosexual marriage had never been a legal institution either. So?
    The institution of heterosexual marriage is thousands (perhaps tens of thousands) of years old. That's the difference.
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    Re: **BREAKING** U.S. Supreme Court Refuses to Rule on Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    You're right, I can't, you win. Roughly every time it's been asked and answered per page in every single gay marriage thread from the last ten years doesn't exist. Hurrah, gay marriage has been defeated, and West Hollywood and San Francisco is in ruins.
    If the basis for a constitutional right to same-sex marriage has really been explained as often and clearly as you assert, and for so long, it's interesting that you can't even begin to articulate it. Should be easy enough for someone who is so sure this constitutional right exists to tell us slower types where to look for its source. Maybe there is a "Just Because We Say So Clause" that my copies of the Constitution somehow are missing.

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    Re: **BREAKING** U.S. Supreme Court Refuses to Rule on Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Says the guy posting over and over in threads about an issue that doesn't affect him in any way.
    What is that supposed to mean?
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    Re: **BREAKING** U.S. Supreme Court Refuses to Rule on Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    If the basis for a constitutional right to same-sex marriage has really been explained as often and clearly as you assert, and for so long, it's interesting that you can't even begin to articulate it. Should be easy enough for someone who is so sure this constitutional right exists to tell us slower types where to look for its source. Maybe there is a "Just Because We Say So Clause" that my copies of the Constitution somehow are missing.
    What about "I can't, you beat me" are you not getting? Write your nearest Federal Court and point out that a right to marriage isn't in the constitution. You personally can bring same sex marriage to its knees right now! What are you waiting for? Go!

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    Re: **BREAKING** U.S. Supreme Court Refuses to Rule on Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    What is that supposed to mean?
    It's the authoritarian liberal in him coming out. IOW, your opinion doesn't count because you're not gay, pregnant or illegal. Or a member of any other grievance group that counts to the left. Sorry. I'm not either, so I can't comment beyond this brief note. Otherwise, I'll be savaged by tolerant liberals.

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    Re: **BREAKING** U.S. Supreme Court Refuses to Rule on Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    the 14th amendment guarantees equal protection regarding distinctions of gender, barring sufficiently powerful state interest.
    Yes, you've tried to peddle that baloney before, and it's just as laughable no matter how many times you regurgitate it. The Supreme Court, not wanting to make itself a laughingstock, has never even hinted that state laws which exclude same-sex partners involve gender discrimination, or that the "intermediate" level of review it has used in gender discrimination cases applies to them. Those laws exclude marriages between partners who are both male just the same as they exclude marriages between partners who are both female.

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    Re: **BREAKING** U.S. Supreme Court Refuses to Rule on Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    The institution of heterosexual marriage is thousands (perhaps tens of thousands) of years old. That's the difference.
    It's not an important difference.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: **BREAKING** U.S. Supreme Court Refuses to Rule on Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    Yes, you've tried to peddle that baloney before, and it's just as laughable no matter how many times you regurgitate it. The Supreme Court, not wanting to make itself a laughingstock, has never even hinted that state laws which exclude same-sex partners involve gender discrimination, or that the "intermediate" level of review it has used in gender discrimination cases applies to them. Those laws exclude marriages between partners who are both male just the same as they exclude marriages between partners who are both female.
    The Supreme Court has proven themselves to be ducking the issue.

    Circuit courts have applied varying levels of scrutiny, and same sex marriage bans don't pass any of them.

    Previously, marriages excluded partners who weren't both white just the same as they excluded partners who weren't both black. This is not a compelling argument.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: **BREAKING** U.S. Supreme Court Refuses to Rule on Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    It's not an important difference.

    That is an incomprehensible assertion. The evolution of attitudes on same sex marriage, from dismissal to acceptance in a generation, is the most far reaching and rapid shift in history.
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