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    Re: **BREAKING** U.S. Supreme Court Refuses to Rule on Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by JoeTrumps View Post
    once all this goes through I'm going to start a thread asking for predictions on the next "crisis" the gay community will create, and how people who don't agree with the next "crisis" will be called evil homophobes before you can bat an eye.

    If I thought for a second "OK, once the gay people and their supporters get this, they will be happy and content" I would look forward to them just giving what they want already. However I'd bet everything I own it will only be the beginning, not the end, of their unending complaining and name calling of anyone not on their "side".

    wait and see.
    Hey, great. How about a preview? What do you think 'they'll come up with?'
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    Re: **BREAKING** U.S. Supreme Court Refuses to Rule on Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by SENSIBLE PATRIO View Post
    You are dismissed because you are intellectually dishonest.
    No he's not. You are just too lazy to read the thread. It's all been answered many times.

    Find your own answers...they're all here.
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    Re: **BREAKING** U.S. Supreme Court Refuses to Rule on Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by SENSIBLE PATRIO View Post
    How long do you think the people who are a majority against ssm will put up with activist judges?
    There is no national majority against same sex couples getting married and everyday more and more people either come to support it or simply don't care enough about it.
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    Re: **BREAKING** U.S. Supreme Court Refuses to Rule on Gay Marriage

    It's good to keep in mind that in this country, it is the people who have the final say about what the Constitution means, and not the federal courts. We should never think we have no choice but to sit meekly and do as a few judges tell us.

    If push came to shove, Congress could probably remove the lower federal courts' jurisdiction to hear any case involving a certain issue. And Congress almost certainly has power to dissolve the lower federal courts outright. Federal district courts didn't even exist until the 1870's, when Congress created them by law.

    Congress once snatched a case right from under the Supreme Court's nose, after oral arguments had already been heard, by passing a law that removed the Court's jurisdiction. See Ex Parte McCardle. I suppose Congress could do that again, if Americans were outraged enough to demand it.

    The House also once impeached a Supreme Court justice, although he survived his trial in the Senate and stayed on. I suppose the House could also do that again, even if it's unlikely. But even discussing the possibility forcefully in public would tend to remind the Court that the Judicial Branch is the weakest of the three.

    Congress can also pass a law that undercuts or even goes against an unpopular Supreme Court decision, and dare the Court to overrule it. If the people and their representatives were adamant, it might choose not to pick up the glove.

    A President can also decline to enforce a Supreme Court decision, or some part of it, that he believes is clearly unconstitutional, as President Lincoln did with Dred Scott v. Sandford.
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    Re: **BREAKING** U.S. Supreme Court Refuses to Rule on Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by penn1954 View Post
    Gutless Aholes !!!!
    I thought y'all loved State rights. Now you want the federal government in there? Why? Cause it didn't turn out how you wanted it? Man's guess many cannot live by the principles and repercussions of freedom.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: **BREAKING** U.S. Supreme Court Refuses to Rule on Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by SENSIBLE PATRIO View Post
    Show me the right to marry for same sex couples, also show me the results of those elections where states voted to ban ssm and we will talk about 1 elected official subverting the will of the people
    Washington state voted to allow same sex couples to marry. Maine or Maryland voted down their ban and then voted to allow same sex marriage. Minnesota voted against the ban them their legislature voted for same sex marriage.

    Same sex marriage is a right via the 9th, 10th, and 14th amendments. Not all rights are enumerated, since the Constitution is meant to limit the government not the people, including state governments.
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    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    Re: **BREAKING** U.S. Supreme Court Refuses to Rule on Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Under the 13th, yes they did.
    13th doesn't mention marriage.
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: **BREAKING** U.S. Supreme Court Refuses to Rule on Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    It's good to keep in mind that in this country, it is the people who have the final say about what the Constitution means, and not the federal courts. We should never think we have no choice but to sit meekly and do as a few judges tell us.

    If push came to shove, Congress could probably remove the lower federal courts' jurisdiction to hear any case involving a certain issue. And Congress almost certainly has power to dissolve the lower federal courts outright. Federal district courts didn't even exist until the 1870's, when Congress created them by law.

    Congress once snatched a case right from under the Supreme Court's nose, after oral arguments had already been heard, by passing a law that removed the Court's jurisdiction. See Ex Parte McCardle. I suppose Congress could do that again, if Americans were outraged enough to demand it.

    The House also once impeached a Supreme Court justice, although he survived his trial in the Senate and stayed on. I suppose the House could also do that again, even if it's unlikely. But even discussing the possibility forcefully in public would tend to remind the Court that the Judicial Branch is the weakest of the three.

    Congress can also pass a law that undercuts or even goes against an unpopular Supreme Court decision, and dare the Court to overrule it. If the people and their representatives were adamant, it might choose not to pick up the glove.

    A President can also decline to enforce a Supreme Court decision, or some part of it, that he believes is clearly unconstitutional, as President Lincoln did with Dred Scott v. Sandford.
    Yes, those things can theoretically happen.

    But they wont. A majority of Americans support same sex marriage.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: **BREAKING** U.S. Supreme Court Refuses to Rule on Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Washington state voted to allow same sex couples to marry. Maine or Maryland voted down their ban and then voted to allow same sex marriage. Minnesota voted against the ban them their legislature voted for same sex marriage.

    Same sex marriage is a right via the 9th, 10th, and 14th amendments. Not all rights are enumerated, since the Constitution is meant to limit the government not the people, including state governments.
    I know this is specifically a debate forum, but I think everyone from here on out who demands to know where in the constitution it declares that marriage is a right should be told to get bent. But you know, in a nice, non giggable way.

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    Re: **BREAKING** U.S. Supreme Court Refuses to Rule on Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    Not exactly. The court refused to hear the case, leaving stand what the circuits have decided. The circuits, as you may recall, have consistently over-ruled the states to date, broaden SSM. Since the authority of the circuit is across state lines, the SCOTUS ruling has the effect of broadening the rulings of the circuits. In other words, since almost all circuit court verdicts have been to overturn statues on SSM, those rulings now will apply to states where the question has not yet come to court. As soon as someone in one of these states files, they will get an uncontested judgement in their favor, thus broadening SSM.

    In an odd-way, this is a major victory for the SSM movement.
    Yup....

    From what I understand is that the scotus' intent is to not rule on it until a lower court goes the other way causing a conflict to iron out in conflicting lower court rulings.
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