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    Re: **BREAKING** U.S. Supreme Court Refuses to Rule on Gay Marriage

    "In a surprising anti-climax to one of the most important legal battles of the last several decades, the Supreme Court announced today that it would not hear several cases where federal appeals courts held that the Constitution guarantees same-sex couples the same marriage rights as straight couples. The announcement listed these marriage equality cases as part of a lengthy order listing the cases where the Court had denied review. The justices offered no explanation for their decision.

    As a practical matter, however, this decision not to hear these cases is an earthquake for gay rights. The United States Court of Appeals for the Fourth Circuit, which covers Maryland, Virginia, West Virginia, North Carolina and South Carolina, refused to issue a stay halting its order favoring marriage equality. Although the Supreme Court later stepped in with its own stay order, that order provides that the Supreme Court’s stay will “terminate automatically” if the Supreme Court denies review of the case. Now that the justices have done so, there should be no further legal barriers preventing marriages from beginning in those five states — although it is possible that there may be some delay before marriages may begin due to procedural steps that need to be taken by the judiciary."
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    It is my understanding that it was John Roberts who was the pivotal decider in this case. A lot of people have bashed Justice Roberts for many of his Libertarian stances, but unlike a lot of people who claim to be Libertarians, but are only Libertarian where it comes to things they like, John Roberts seems to be the real deal. If gay people want to marry, what business is it of any authoritarian government? When Bush picked Roberts, I was lambasted by many on the left for praising Bush for that pick. And now, Liberals can praise John Roberts too, although I bet I won't see that happen anytime in the next........ well, my lifetime. LOL.
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    Re: **BREAKING** U.S. Supreme Court Refuses to Rule on Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    I disagree - they can leave it to the lower courts forever and continue to refuse to take the issue up. It should be IMO a state issue not a federal issue. Government really has no business being in the middle of marriage of any sort.
    Nobody should be involved in the issue of marriage. How the hell did this happen that it's an issue anyway? When I decided to marry my husband, I had no interest in anyone else's opinion on it whatsoever as I was free and over 18 (over 21 actually) and as an adult, it was up to me who I married, and nobody else.

    Gay people should get to marry who they want. Polygamists should get to marry who they want (assuming their choice is of legal age). A 90 year old woman should get to marry a 18 year old guy. An 88 year old man whose penis is kept in a jar of formaldehyde should get to marry a 21 year old girl if it makes her happy.

    This is all crazy nonsense that marriage is actually the subject of debate. Who cares who another adult marries anyway?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    If that's the narrative that SSM advocates want to portray that's fine by me. I see it as yet another victory that the federal government won't be taking over SSM with a SCOTUS ruling - regardless of which way they would rule.
    I like that the Feds are keeping out of it for now, the less federal intervention into States affairs, the better. I just don't like that they are allowing a handful of judges to overrule the voices of the people of an entire State when they decide how they want to handle things in their own States. This is why they got rid of the filibuster and try to flood the courts with their anti Constitutional activist judges. They know that they only need a few judges in the right places that will put the liberal agenda over the Constitution and the will of the people.
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    Re: **BREAKING** U.S. Supreme Court Refuses to Rule on Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    I like that the Feds are keeping out of it for now, the less federal intervention into States affairs, the better. I just don't like that they are allowing a handful of judges to overrule the voices of the people of an entire State when they decide how they want to handle things in their own States. This is why they got rid of the filibuster and try to flood the courts with their anti Constitutional activist judges. They know that they only need a few judges in the right places that will put the liberal agenda over the Constitution and the will of the people.

    So were you cool with the State of Alabama voting to amend it's constitution to ban interracial civil marriages? I mean the people in that State (and others) had decided how they wanted to handle things.



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    Re: **BREAKING** U.S. Supreme Court Refuses to Rule on Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    I like that the Feds are keeping out of it for now, the less federal intervention into States affairs, the better. I just don't like that they are allowing a handful of judges to overrule the voices of the people of an entire State when they decide how they want to handle things in their own States. This is why they got rid of the filibuster and try to flood the courts with their anti Constitutional activist judges. They know that they only need a few judges in the right places that will put the liberal agenda over the Constitution and the will of the people.
    Seems you don't understand what happened here. It was the Federal appeals courts which shot down the states' laws on gay marriage. All SCOTUS did was to let those Federal appeals court decisions stand.
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    Re: **BREAKING** U.S. Supreme Court Refuses to Rule on Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    I like that the Feds are keeping out of it for now, the less federal intervention into States affairs, the better. I just don't like that they are allowing a handful of judges to overrule the voices of the people of an entire State when they decide how they want to handle things in their own States. This is why they got rid of the filibuster and try to flood the courts with their anti Constitutional activist judges. They know that they only need a few judges in the right places that will put the liberal agenda over the Constitution and the will of the people.
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    You know what. Sure. We will go with that narrative. The feds are "staying out of it." That is what this decision meant. Works for me.

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    Re: **BREAKING** U.S. Supreme Court Refuses to Rule on Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    I disagree - they can leave it to the lower courts forever and continue to refuse to take the issue up. It should be IMO a state issue not a federal issue. Government really has no business being in the middle of marriage of any sort.
    I agree that government shouldn't be in the marriage business at all, but they are. And as long as they are, this issue will not be settled through avoidance.
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    Re: **BREAKING** U.S. Supreme Court Refuses to Rule on Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    U.S. Supreme Court Refuses to Rule on Gay Marriage - Bloomberg



    The SCOTUS has ruled they will leave it up to the states to decide and will not take up a nationwide ruling on same sex marriage. This means that lower court ruling will stay in place unless challenged in the future. No federal ruling of marriage is in the near future....



    "Let's just kick this can down the road a piece and go golfing guys."

    This sore is beginning to fester while SCOTUS seems intent on running up some serious legal fees for lawyers; this will only result in more and more litigation, more and more division in the country and it's politics. They are, IMO, shirking their duties.
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    Re: **BREAKING** U.S. Supreme Court Refuses to Rule on Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    This is all crazy nonsense that marriage is actually the subject of debate. Who cares who another adult marries anyway?
    Authoritarian Social Conservatives, that's who.
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