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    Re: **BREAKING** U.S. Supreme Court Refuses to Rule on Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    There was no such thing as SSM.
    It is just "marriage", that same sex couples enter into. And yes, that does happen.
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    Re: **BREAKING** U.S. Supreme Court Refuses to Rule on Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Yes, proposed in the last twenty years. That's a nanosecond in cultural development.
    Same sex couples being able to marry was proposed much longer than just 20 years ago. Baker was over 40 years ago alone.

    But considering in many parts of this country, prior to the early 70s, those in same sex relationships could be involuntarily committed or put in jail for sodomy, it was a bit more important to stop those legal practices of persecuting gays/homosexuality than worrying about getting married at the time.
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    Re: **BREAKING** U.S. Supreme Court Refuses to Rule on Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    Well, maybe we'll just go with the short answer here. Because we would not have a country if they did that. No Constitution.
    So, then the SCOTUS can't do things that they feel may keep the country together rather than make a ruling that the majority disagrees with that could cause major issues? Pretty sure the SCOTUS is still filled with people, who still have biases of their own.
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    Re: **BREAKING** U.S. Supreme Court Refuses to Rule on Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by SENSIBLE PATRIO View Post
    See what pisses me off is an unelected judge is subverting the will of the people!
    The will of the people changes with time, and bureaucracy is slow at recognizing that change, which is reinforced by stupid laws that mandate such crap, such as having to wait certain amounts of time before something that was put into place can be removed from a state constitution.

    One of the main points of our federal courts is to ensure that the rights guarantees of our Constitution, the US Constitution, are being upheld, even when it comes to the states.
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    Re: **BREAKING** U.S. Supreme Court Refuses to Rule on Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by SENSIBLE PATRIO View Post
    See what pisses me off is an unelected judge is subverting the will of the people!
    We do not live in a pure democracy. Your point is irrelevent. We also have protections of tyranny against a minority as well.

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    Re: **BREAKING** U.S. Supreme Court Refuses to Rule on Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    LOL....wrong again. As I have pointed out to you, the law in on my side.
    It is not, because there isn't anything there. There is nothing in the Constitution giving the Federal government the power to intervene, whether they say SSM is allowed or it is not. It's not a race issue, where there are amendments that cover that.

    This is all that needs to be done. Convince the people of each State to vote for it. No problem there. Or, since there is such a wave of support, just amend the Constitution and make it very clear, no problem there either.
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    Re: **BREAKING** U.S. Supreme Court Refuses to Rule on Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    And yes, the SCOTUS will make mistakes and change their minds, just as Congress has done and humans in general as large groups have done for a very long time, since basically the dawn of humanity. We make mistakes, and grow from there.
    I'm glad we agree, because my point was that there is nothing special about the Supreme Court that makes them right all the time, they are often wrong, and terribly so.
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    Re: **BREAKING** U.S. Supreme Court Refuses to Rule on Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    So, then the SCOTUS can't do things that they feel may keep the country together rather than make a ruling that the majority disagrees with that could cause major issues? Pretty sure the SCOTUS is still filled with people, who still have biases of their own.
    Not sure how that applies to my answer. The SCOTUS did not write the Constitution, they are supposed to apply it. Not look at it and try and find a way to get to the decision that they want.
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    Re: **BREAKING** U.S. Supreme Court Refuses to Rule on Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    I'm glad we agree, because my point was that there is nothing special about the Supreme Court that makes them right all the time, they are often wrong, and terribly so.
    They can be wrong. No one has said differently. But they do tend to eventually get it right to a point where very few are in disagreement with their new decision, unlike those decisions you mentioned earlier, which had more and more people not agreeing with those decisions as time passed, not less and less. There are certainly some decisions where it is questionable as to their decision, and time may show that they made a bad one (ACA comes to mind here), but they actually tend to have a good track record of eventually giving the people what they want when the legislature simply isn't working for the people's rights in any way that is reasonably fast enough.
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    Re: **BREAKING** U.S. Supreme Court Refuses to Rule on Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    Not sure how that applies to my answer. The SCOTUS did not write the Constitution, they are supposed to apply it. Not look at it and try and find a way to get to the decision that they want.
    They do apply it. They have no obligation to apply it in the way you or certain people who wrote the Constitution believe it should absolutely only apply. They are supposed to be limiting the government, not the rights of the people.
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    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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