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    Re: **BREAKING** U.S. Supreme Court Refuses to Rule on Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Hamster Buddha View Post
    Am I the only one reminded of "Separate but Equal" when they think of civil unions?
    nope, you and every other logical, educated and honest person is reminded of this and how it would not be equal
    fake ignorance is strong for those that like to deny facts and it will continue because they see the writing on the wall and their desperation goes.

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    Re: **BREAKING** U.S. Supreme Court Refuses to Rule on Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    Was it a republican that spewed DOMA?
    Yes. It was introduced in the House by Bob Barr (R-GA), and in the Senate by Don Nickles (R-OK). The Republican Party endorsed it in 1996. Republicans controlled Congress when it was voted. IIRC no Republicans voted against it.


    Was it republicans that mourned the loss of former KKK member and Dixicrat Strom Thurmond who only flipped republican because he thought his once racist party was pandering to minorities?
    It was the Republicans who welcomed him with open arms, and voted for him from 1964 onwards.


    Sorry to tell you that republicans hated that guy and democrats loved him - that alone shows how ****ed up politics really are.
    What revisionist nonsense is this? What indication do you have that the Republicans hated him? Did they encourage anyone to challenge him in the primaries? He was President pro tempore in the Senate for 3 terms, was on the Senate Judiciary and Armed Services Committees, was that also because they despised him?

    At his 100th birthday party, Trent Lott proclaimed: "When Strom Thurmond ran for president, [Mississippi] voted for him. We're proud of it. And if the rest of the country had followed our lead, we wouldn't have had all these problems over the years, either."

    Yes, clearly they hated him. There's nothing even remotely partisan in your reading of that situation, not at all.

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    Re: **BREAKING** U.S. Supreme Court Refuses to Rule on Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    1.)Sorry do you just want to believe what you want to believe??
    2.)Was it a republican that spewed DOMA?
    3.)Was it republicans that mourned the loss of former KKK member and Dixicrat Strom Thurmond who only flipped republican because he thought his once racist party was pandering to minorities?
    4.)Sorry to tell you that republicans hated that guy and democrats loved him - that alone shows how ****ed up politics really are.
    5.)Oh and BTW, nothing I say is "false" you just want to believe what you think is true..
    1.) no need to apologize for your post being wrong, people make mistakes and my beliefs like yours are meaningless to facts, I haven't stated my beliefs to you in this thread lol
    2.) meaningless to the fact its not a states issue, LMAO please stay on topic instead of trying to deflect
    3.) see #2
    4.) see #2
    5.) facts, laws, rights and court cases prove them to be false, my beliefs play no role in this fact

    your post fails and fact win again
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    Re: **BREAKING** U.S. Supreme Court Refuses to Rule on Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Hamster Buddha View Post
    Am I the only one reminded of "Separate but Equal" when they think of civil unions?
    Wasn't that a great one by the SCOTUS? Good thing we have the Federal courts deciding for us here, because they are sure to make the right decision.
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    Re: **BREAKING** U.S. Supreme Court Refuses to Rule on Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Visbek View Post
    Yes. It was introduced in the House by Bob Barr (R-GA), and in the Senate by Don Nickles (R-OK). The Republican Party endorsed it in 1996. Republicans controlled Congress when it was voted. IIRC no Republicans voted against it.



    It was the Republicans who welcomed him with open arms, and voted for him from 1964 onwards.



    What revisionist nonsense is this? What indication do you have that the Republicans hated him? Did they encourage anyone to challenge him in the primaries? He was President pro tempore in the Senate for 3 terms, was on the Senate Judiciary and Armed Services Committees, was that also because they despised him?

    At his 100th birthday party, Trent Lott proclaimed: "When Strom Thurmond ran for president, [Mississippi] voted for him. We're proud of it. And if the rest of the country had followed our lead, we wouldn't have had all these problems over the years, either."

    Yes, clearly they hated him. There's nothing even remotely partisan in your reading of that situation, not at all.
    You know what all this only proves? Politicians change their opinions to fit to social norms. Remember when the Clintons opposed SSM? We wouldn't of had "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" if not for Bill Clinton.

    Also, was Thurmond a republican? And If he was a democrat, did he just run unopposed with no republican challenger? The answer by the way is no on both counts, so stop trying to twist this one.

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    Re: **BREAKING** U.S. Supreme Court Refuses to Rule on Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    Wasn't that a great one by the SCOTUS? Good thing we have the Federal courts deciding for us here, because they are sure to make the right decision.
    If the Sixth rules along party lines, we'll probably find out what the SCOTUS thinks anyways.

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    Re: **BREAKING** U.S. Supreme Court Refuses to Rule on Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    Wasn't that a great one by the SCOTUS? Good thing we have the Federal courts deciding for us here, because they are sure to make the right decision.
    So you do or do not support separate but equal marriage status for gays?
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    Re: **BREAKING** U.S. Supreme Court Refuses to Rule on Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Hamster Buddha View Post
    You know what all this only proves? Politicians change their opinions to fit to social norms....
    Erm... I'm actually trying to correct Mr Nick's vastly incorrect claims.


    Remember when the Clintons opposed SSM? We wouldn't of had "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" if not for Bill Clinton.
    What I remember is that Bill Clinton wanted to allow gays to be open about their sexuality in the military. Conservatives and the top brass lost their collective minds, and the public wasn't receptive either, so he scaled it back to the crappy DADT.

    Clinton also wasn't a strong backer of gay rights. It really wasn't until Obama said "OK, I'm for it now" that the conversation really seemed to change.


    Also, was Thurmond a republican?
    Uh... yes. He switched parties in 1964. He was a Democrat from 1954 to 1964.


    And If he was a democrat, did he just run unopposed with no republican challenger?
    Pretty much. South Carolina was very strongly controlled by the Democratic Party until the mid-1960s. It's rarely been a competitive state in that sense.

    I was also talking about primaries. If the Republicans truly hated Thurmond, they would've tried to hit him hard in the primaries at some point in his 40+ year Senatorial career. So you tell me, when did they try to give him the boot?

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    Re: **BREAKING** U.S. Supreme Court Refuses to Rule on Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Visbek View Post
    Erm... I'm actually trying to correct Mr Nick's vastly incorrect claims.

    What I remember is that Bill Clinton wanted to allow gays to be open about their sexuality in the military. Conservatives and the top brass lost their collective minds, and the public wasn't receptive either, so he scaled it back to the crappy DADT.

    Clinton also wasn't a strong backer of gay rights. It really wasn't until Obama said "OK, I'm for it now" that the conversation really seemed to change.
    I was thinking more of Hillary Clinton, who had spoken out against SSM up until last year when she changed her mind. All I'm saying is that both parties have their flip floppers.

    Quote Originally Posted by Visbek View Post
    Uh... yes. He switched parties in 1964. He was a Democrat from 1954 to 1964.

    Pretty much. South Carolina was very strongly controlled by the Democratic Party until the mid-1960s. It's rarely been a competitive state in that sense.

    I was also talking about primaries. If the Republicans truly hated Thurmond, they would've tried to hit him hard in the primaries at some point in his 40+ year Senatorial career. So you tell me, when did they try to give him the boot?
    You know what? I was thinking of the democrat KKK guy from WV. Can't remember his name though... anyways, my mistake. They're all a bunch of old white racist to me, and I do tend to get them mixed up...

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    Re: **BREAKING** U.S. Supreme Court Refuses to Rule on Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    Then go ahead and say something smart pertaining to the Constitution and the way it's being trampled on by the activist judges. Bet you can't.
    LOL....that presumes that you are in a position to be able to make that judgement. If you haven't read or cannot comprehend the Court's position in Loving, then I think that such a presumption is flawed.
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