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    Re: **BREAKING** U.S. Supreme Court Refuses to Rule on Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Hamster Buddha View Post
    I've said it elsewhere, but the reason I left the Republican Party was because I was tired of the hypocrisy. If Republicans were true conservatives, that is they believe in individual liberty and oppose government involvement in our private lives, then everything would be fine. Where the Republican Party runs into their problem is that they have a lot of religious folks under that tent that bring up force Reps to be against SSM and Pro-Life. Remove the religious element, and you have a Republican party I could be a part of. Or just be a Libertarian since that's ultimately what a Conservative without a religious bent is as far as I see it...
    Not even that, really. Republicans talk about smaller government and less spending all the time, but when was the last time a Republican actually accomplished that? Reagan ballooned spending and deficits, even supported, *gasp* gun control. Bush Sr got us a bunch of that horrifying, job-killing, socialist cap and trade implemented. And let's not discuss the PATRIOT act.
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: **BREAKING** U.S. Supreme Court Refuses to Rule on Gay Marriage

    Now the 9th Circuit ruling has come down likely extending SSM across another swathe of states. The end of this debate, at least at a practical level, is close at hand.

    Ninth Circuit Strikes Down Gay-Marriage Bans in Idaho, Nevada - WSJ

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    Re: **BREAKING** U.S. Supreme Court Refuses to Rule on Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    1.) sorry rights, laws, and court cases all disagree with you. Read up on current events
    2.) correct, which is meaningless, good thing this is about equal rights
    3.) false see #1
    facts win again
    Sorry do you just want to believe what you want to believe??

    Was it a republican that spewed DOMA?

    Was it republicans that mourned the loss of former KKK member and Dixicrat Strom Thurmond who only flipped republican because he thought his once racist party was pandering to minorities?

    Sorry to tell you that republicans hated that guy and democrats loved him - that alone shows how ****ed up politics really are.

    Oh and BTW, nothing I say is "false" you just want to believe what you think is true..

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    Re: **BREAKING** U.S. Supreme Court Refuses to Rule on Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    U.S. Supreme Court Refuses to Rule on Gay Marriage - Bloomberg



    The SCOTUS has ruled they will leave it up to the states to decide and will not take up a nationwide ruling on same sex marriage. This means that lower court ruling will stay in place unless challenged in the future. No federal ruling of marriage is in the near future....
    They have not left it up to the states to decide. The lower courts infringed on the states' rights and SCOTUS allowed that infringement to stand by refusing the writ of certiorari. I believe in the sanctity of the sovereign state. (Frankly, I personally believe states should allow gay marriage, but it should not be up to the Feds to decide). This was not a victory for states rights.
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    Re: **BREAKING** U.S. Supreme Court Refuses to Rule on Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Not even that, really. Republicans talk about smaller government and less spending all the time, but when was the last time a Republican actually accomplished that? Reagan ballooned spending and deficits, even supported, *gasp* gun control. Bush Sr got us a bunch of that horrifying, job-killing, socialist cap and trade implemented. And let's not discuss the PATRIOT act.
    People talk about Reagan and try to equate him to today's out of control spending, but that is just being ignorant of the times. He wasn't expanding the reach of the Federal Government by getting involved in private lives and putting welfare programs on steroids, he expanded and (more importantly) modernized the military to serve as a counterpoint to the Soviet Union (which by the way, where are they today?). Had Saddam not invaded Kuwait, we would of began a draw down of the military soon after the Berlin Wall fell.

    And when it came to Reagan on gun control or Bush Jr with the Patriot Act, you have to take into consideration the context of the times. Drug crime was rampant back in the 80's and there was a call to action. After 9/11 where 3000 people died due to 19 hijackers on airplanes, there was a call to action. This is probably where Libertarians and Conservatives differ come to think of it; Conservatives are willing to expand the government in the event of national emergencies, where Libertarians are not as knee jerky.

    I'll be honest, I didn't know of the Cap and Trade thing though, glad it wasn't passed.

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    Re: **BREAKING** U.S. Supreme Court Refuses to Rule on Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    Sorry do you just want to believe what you want to believe??

    Was it a republican that spewed DOMA?

    Was it republicans that mourned the loss of former KKK member and Dixicrat Strom Thurmond who only flipped republican because he thought his once racist party was pandering to minorities?

    Sorry to tell you that republicans hated that guy and democrats loved him - that alone shows how ****ed up politics really are.

    Oh and BTW, nothing I say is "false" you just want to believe what you think is true..
    You do realize that the only reason Bush got his second term was that push for that stupid anti-SSM amendment right?

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    Re: **BREAKING** U.S. Supreme Court Refuses to Rule on Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Sherman123 View Post
    Now the 9th Circuit ruling has come down likely extending SSM across another swathe of states. The end of this debate, at least at a practical level, is close at hand.

    Ninth Circuit Strikes Down Gay-Marriage Bans in Idaho, Nevada - WSJ
    The interesting news in that article isn't the article, but the video itself. For those who didn't see, Ginsberg at a recent speech said that the Supreme Court is currently awaiting the Sixth Court of Appeals to hand down their ruling on a case brought before them. As the video states, that court has "two conservatives and one progressive". The video goes on: "If they should do that, then you would have what is called a split of the Circuits.... one which the Supreme Court would then feel obliged to take up." Seems like at this point all eyes are on the Sixth.

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    Re: **BREAKING** U.S. Supreme Court Refuses to Rule on Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Sherman123 View Post
    Now the 9th Circuit ruling has come down likely extending SSM across another swathe of states. The end of this debate, at least at a practical level, is close at hand.

    Ninth Circuit Strikes Down Gay-Marriage Bans in Idaho, Nevada - WSJ
    Erm, maybe not:

    U.S. justice temporarily blocks Idaho gay marriage ruling

    Kennedy issues a stay pending cert? What the hell, guy? You just ****ing ruled on a case like this. Are you really telling me there is a reasonable expectation that SCOTUS will hear the Idaho case when they just rejected all the others?

    Go home, SCOTUS, you're drunk.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hamster Buddha View Post
    The interesting news in that article isn't the article, but the video itself. For those who didn't see, Ginsberg at a recent speech said that the Supreme Court is currently awaiting the Sixth Court of Appeals to hand down their ruling on a case brought before them. As the video states, that court has "two conservatives and one progressive". The video goes on: "If they should do that, then you would have what is called a split of the Circuits.... one which the Supreme Court would then feel obliged to take up." Seems like at this point all eyes are on the Sixth.
    That could be it. If they expect the 6th will split the circuits, maybe they are just groaning and realizing they have to take this up anyway.
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: **BREAKING** U.S. Supreme Court Refuses to Rule on Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Obviously not.....since you seem to lack the very basic of understanding of the issue.
    Then go ahead and say something smart pertaining to the Constitution and the way it's being trampled on by the activist judges. Bet you can't.
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    Re: **BREAKING** U.S. Supreme Court Refuses to Rule on Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    I'm sure there are some authoritarian republicans, however that doesn't change the fact that democrats and progressives are ALL authoritarian.
    Oh Bull****, again, conservatives supported Bush on the proposed amendment to ban SSM. That seems pretty authoritarian to me.

    However, I don't think conservatives would really try to force their ideology on you unless the ideas were outlined in the constitution, besides it's not like nutty conservatives have ever been able to actually legislate their authoritarian ideas - most of which are religious related.... However democrats have been legislating their moonbat authoritarian rule at the sate and even federal level for the past 150 years..... Lets not forget who the lynchers were, lets not forget the dems that ignored the Bill of Rights and skipped due process just to lynch a man - lets not forget how religiously fanatical democrats were in the south and even created "dry" counties and forbid the sale of liquor on Sundays because they were Baptists - and now for some strange reason democrats and progressives have the audacity to blame their screwed up behavior on republicans and conservatives. Of course lets not least forget about segregation..
    Again, you equate Dem to liberal. The fact is those that were FOR slavery were CONSERVATIVES and those that were against it were liberal. Conservatives want things to remain the same and liberals were the ones fighting to change that. You think EVERYTHING liberal is bad, it isn't. Liberalism is what got women the right to vote, ended slavery, etc. Those were all the things people that were conservative wanted to keep the same.

    I could write a book on how screwed up the democrat party was between 1870 and the present and how they love to blame their past on republicans - the real "social justice" warriors and how democrats did everything in their power to block every attempt they made at racial and gender equality..
    Sure you could, but that doesn't change the fact that liberal does not mean Dem all the time.

    Sorry but progress can be good and bad.
    Absolutely which is why I think BOTH conservatism and liberalism is needed.

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