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    Re: **BREAKING** U.S. Supreme Court Refuses to Rule on Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    You can call them RINO's all you want, but in the end the Republicans choose those so called "RINO's" to run. Your response is what Republicans say when they are embarrased what they have done.
    Yeah the whole sentiment around dem vs repub is ridiculously confining. A republican voter (who is this forum's biggest gun nut) recently questioned how i can lean conservative for not wanting to train 8 year olds to use automatic weapons. This poster supports SSM. I'm like....wait a minute. Someone could dare to question his credentials as a conservative for that.

    What does is it say about our inflexible thinking that we leave no room for nuance and it's a strict dichotomy of "republicans favor XYZ, dems favor ABC"? It's just being conformist as hell and playing right into the hands of the politicians, who want things kept nice and simple when it comes time to convince their base to show up on election day.

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    Re: **BREAKING** U.S. Supreme Court Refuses to Rule on Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    good thing on THIS issue neither of those things are happening lol
    this is a WIN for rights, the constitution hasnt been circumvented (accept by the states being corrected for their error) and is less government
    I love how you took something I said completely out of context and used it as your sig.... It really goes to show how mature you are and how much you want to ATTEMPT to destroy someone who disagrees with you... Which is what the typical progressive does...

    I think it's too difficult for a progressive to interpret a quasi-complex idea and can only rationalize a post like a Dr. Seuss book.

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    Re: **BREAKING** U.S. Supreme Court Refuses to Rule on Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    all this time and you still dont get its not a states issue lol
    The hell it's not.... Ever hear of DOMA???? who signed that? using your logic Clinton is a tyrant.

    Even moreso there is absolutely NOTHING in the constitution that deals with marriage...

    So yes this very much is a state constitution issue - if it wasn't congress would be all over it and would have never allowed prop 8 in the first place or votes on the issue in any state for that matter.

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    Re: **BREAKING** U.S. Supreme Court Refuses to Rule on Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    Well good governors sign legislation that they may not agree with as long as its the will of the people...

    Also, a little OT here but I don't like the use of "gay marriage" "civil unions" seem more appropriate.
    Oh, no. You can't say "civil unions", must be marriage. You see, homosexual couples could get all the rights of a marriage in a civil union, that would be comparatively easy to do. In fact, I can't believe that there would be much opposition at all. It must be forced down everyone's throat, regardless of the will of the people. Also, the dems need this issue, can't have these people focusing on other things.
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    Re: **BREAKING** U.S. Supreme Court Refuses to Rule on Gay Marriage

    I'm not opposed to civil unions, however the context within the US Constitution used to justify such a concept is amateur at best and downright stupid at times....

    Basically there are a bunch of fools in judicial districts which of whom could give a rats ass what they're reading because the statues and amendments are quite clear - yet these pro-gay want these 3rd grade words redefined as if they're partaking in a common core class.

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    Re: **BREAKING** U.S. Supreme Court Refuses to Rule on Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    Oh, no. You can't say "civil unions", must be marriage. You see, homosexual couples could get all the rights of a marriage in a civil union, that would be comparatively easy to do. In fact, I can't believe that there would be much opposition at all. It must be forced down everyone's throat, regardless of the will of the people. Also, the dems need this issue, can't have these people focusing on other things.
    I think the US government should get out of the marriage business all together, quite frankly.
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    Re: **BREAKING** U.S. Supreme Court Refuses to Rule on Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    Oh, no. You can't say "civil unions", must be marriage. You see, homosexual couples could get all the rights of a marriage in a civil union, that would be comparatively easy to do. In fact, I can't believe that there would be much opposition at all. It must be forced down everyone's throat, regardless of the will of the people. Also, the dems need this issue, can't have these people focusing on other things.
    Yeah well dems wont be happy until 3/4th of the population is wiped out and we're all forced to live in trees and communes ..

    I think most democrats have the morals and mentality of a 10th grader and look up to the successful tyrannical progressives that have actually made it in life using the capitalist model or just becoming famous for domestic terrorism. Which isn't surprising because 10th graders love defiance which is probably why many states are trying to lower the voting age to 17 to take advantage of that defiance and rage.

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    Re: **BREAKING** U.S. Supreme Court Refuses to Rule on Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    First off you said you were a democrat, and secondly I never even claimed to be a republican - the only remote and nice thing I said about republicans were that the ones my age are far different than the ones we presently have in the House and Senate.
    I said I was a Dem many years ago. People change, as I did.

    I have absolutely no issue with conservatives, some are just people who value religion and others view conservatism as defending our founding documents, but don't even confuse that with modern republicans (some of which are OK I suppose, as some democrats are ok) - my issue is with extremism, political correctness, elitism and those who actually believe it's the governments duty to treat grown adults and people with families that are doing just fine like they're children.
    Sorry, but there are MANY conservatives that would love to control morality. They are not Republicans, they are conservatives. Remember the Federal Gay Marrriage ban that tried to happen under Bush? That had conservative support.

    This government just needs to leave people and business' the **** alone....

    That will never happen tho considering the fact our government is basically a Mafia.
    Both the Dems and Republicans have made it that way.

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    Re: **BREAKING** U.S. Supreme Court Refuses to Rule on Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by chromium View Post
    Yeah the whole sentiment around dem vs repub is ridiculously confining. A republican voter (who is this forum's biggest gun nut) recently questioned how i can lean conservative for not wanting to train 8 year olds to use automatic weapons. This poster supports SSM. I'm like....wait a minute. Someone could dare to question his credentials as a conservative for that.

    What does is it say about our inflexible thinking that we leave no room for nuance and it's a strict dichotomy of "republicans favor XYZ, dems favor ABC"? It's just being conformist as hell and playing right into the hands of the politicians, who want things kept nice and simple when it comes time to convince their base to show up on election day.
    Correct, there is no lock, stock, mold for a conservative to be and there is not lock, stock, mold for a liberal to be. Not only that is there are tons of gray in between. One might say supporing SSM makes you a liberal, well it doesn't. There are Republicans that are gay that want SSM, but agree with almost everything else the Republicans do.

    I remember hearing conservatives laugh at saying the Dems don't have a big tent, all the while calling others RINOs declaring them NOT conservatives. And I'm not saying the Dems or liberals are any better. Just try and be a complete 2A supporter to some and they will call you conservtive.

    Bottom line is I don't see the authority those that call others DINOS and RINOS have to do such a thing.

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    Re: **BREAKING** U.S. Supreme Court Refuses to Rule on Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    Yeah well dems wont be happy until 3/4th of the population is wiped out and we're all forced to live in trees and communes ..
    Can you show any more hyperbole, gimme a break. Since you like hyperbole, howe about this one. Republicans won't be happy unless 3/4 of the population is dead from pollution since they hate the EPA.

    I think most democrats have the morals and mentality of a 10th grader and look up to the successful tyrannical progressives that have actually made it in life using the capitalist model or just becoming famous for domestic terrorism. Which isn't surprising because 10th graders love defiance which is probably why many states are trying to lower the voting age to 17 to take advantage of that defiance and rage.
    I love it when a Republican supporter tries and nail the Dems on morality while ignoring the Republicans. Is that why when there is a GOP convention, the revenues of prostitution and strip clubs go up? Gimme a break. The Republicans like to get on their soapbox screaming how people need to be more moral, all the while didling under-age interns and going to prostitutes and strip clubs. No, I don't think the Dems are any better, but I don't put them on soapboxes of morality either.

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