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    Re: **BREAKING** U.S. Supreme Court Refuses to Rule on Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    Don't you know? When the left serves its constituency's interests, it's cynical pandering for votes. When the right does it, it's doing the right thing, because America. Actually, it seems to stem from the right's cynical belief that their constituents are "real" Americans and the rest of us are "other".
    Conservatives rend to test much more strongly for tribal tendencies (in group and authority on the chart below) so this behavior is not unexpected but really reflects no truth beyond instinctive emotional tendencies.


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    Re: **BREAKING** U.S. Supreme Court Refuses to Rule on Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    So what are you doing, blaming the Supreme Court? Earlier you were lauding state rights, then you lumped segregation in with slavery and internment camps (I'll assume you categorize these as negative things), now...what?
    Quite a highlight reel for them, huh? But, yet, in this case, they can't possibly be wrong for letting the federal court Stomp all over the State's rights? Please.
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    Re: **BREAKING** U.S. Supreme Court Refuses to Rule on Gay Marriage

    A politicized GOP court makes a ruling just before an election that will rile up the GOP base and cause even more of them to vote.
    While this devious court knows that people who agree with this decision will be less likely to vote as Dems are prone to do as in 2010 .
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    Re: **BREAKING** U.S. Supreme Court Refuses to Rule on Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by tacomancer View Post
    Whatever makes him feel good for the span of about fifteen seconds given the coherency of his posts
    That seems to be the gist of it.

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    Re: **BREAKING** U.S. Supreme Court Refuses to Rule on Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    LOL, you have got to be kidding. I sure hope you are, because otherwise, you have no credibility. Hey, how about when your boy, Obama, needed contributions and votes, and all of a sudden, the man who believes marriage is only between a man and a woman, turns on a dime and supports SSM! LOL! Nah, had nothing to do with needing votes! LOL!!! Yeah, keep telling yourself that. Republicans would do it too, at least I have the integrity to admit it. But, oh no, not those democrats, not Obama, they are sooooo pure. What a joke.
    And you can provide proof that all this was just for votes I assume? I mean...in order to preserve your credibility?

    And someone can personally believe one thing and support another for the greater good.

    I wouldnt have an abortion but I support a woman's choice.

    I think a pharmacist that doesnt stock the morning after pill is an asshole but I support his right to religious freedom in his business.
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    Re: **BREAKING** U.S. Supreme Court Refuses to Rule on Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Some sort of legal documentation is necessary in order for the government to recognize legal kinship. For most, this documentation is birth certificates that can be linked to people in families. It also can be either legal adoption records or court rulings. All legal kinship claims though do require some documentation, at least in this day and age. Why would or should that change when it comes to spousal recognition?
    Exactly, you just proved my point. Legal kinship does not require any type of marriage license. As to your question, I never said there should be no legal documentation for spousal recognition.
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    Re: **BREAKING** U.S. Supreme Court Refuses to Rule on Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    They still need to document that change in kinship status, wouldn't you agree?
    In order for kinship to be recognized, of course it has to be documented somewhere. But the document does not have to be a marriage license, no does it have to even be created by the government.
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    Re: **BREAKING** U.S. Supreme Court Refuses to Rule on Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Lakryte View Post
    Exactly, you just proved my point. Legal kinship does not require any type of marriage license. As to your question, I never said there should be no legal documentation for spousal recognition.
    It does if you are not related by blood. In that case, only things like marriage and adoption are acceptable and those require legal paperwork. Which, costs $$ unless you get it automatically thru marriage. It is the extra cost that is discriminatory.
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: **BREAKING** U.S. Supreme Court Refuses to Rule on Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    No, you are trying to make a pattern here where there is none. Shame.
    You said it's not a matter of equality cause everyone can marry the opposite gender. Well that's the same reasoning used by racists in 1970, that everyone can marry their own race already so it's not about equality. How is that not a pattern? If you can't see that, just admit you don't like the homos and move on

    It's so easy to apply your 'logic' to demonstrate how much it'd suck for you if the shoe was on the other foot and you could only marry the *same* gender. So easy that you can't even try to explain why it's equality in one case but not the other.

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    There's nothing in the Constitution that gives the Federal government power over the States in this matter
    i'll say it till red in the face, 14th amendment

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    If anyone has any doubt what the left cares about, just look at Obama switching from being against SSM to being for it, just before the election. If anyone does not understand at that point, they probably have the IQ of a brick.
    i just said that, but you once again fail to understand the diff between "the left" politicians and "the left" as in true liberals, social libertarians, progressives etc who are NOT politicians

    It's like if i lumped "the right" together as gay bashing neanderthals cause of ted cruz or fred phelps. Most of those older than 30 are, but it's just as transparent some of the repub *politicians* who were always gay bashers are suddenly trying to low key this SCOTUS ruling, fearing it would cost them in november. I fully expect that will continue.

    One of the repub incumbents in my state gave a newspaper interview, totally dodging the proposed anti employment discrimination law. She's against discrimination (except when it comes to marriage) but for "religious rights of employers," so she needs more time to "study the issue."

    Cowardly non answers is what happens when you've ****ted on an entire minority group for years and now the polls indicate it may cost you your base to cave in to the inevitable, but also cost you the independents and some of your base to continue discriminating. It's certainly far from leadership

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    Re: **BREAKING** U.S. Supreme Court Refuses to Rule on Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    Quite a highlight reel for them, huh? But, yet, in this case, they can't possibly be wrong for letting the federal court Stomp all over the State's rights? Please.
    States don't have any rights when it comes to oppressing their citizens. Sooner or later, whether by force (see: civil war) or the federal courts or legislature, attempts by states to do so will fail and be maligned in the history books.

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