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    Re: **BREAKING** U.S. Supreme Court Refuses to Rule on Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    The word "sanction" in my mind in this context means "giving official approval". The government has no right to give approval for 2 adults of legal age to select each other as spouses. It's offensive to me to suggest that they even have that right or anyone thinks they have that right. They don't. I didn't marry my husband because I was given approval by Uncle Sam.
    Does the government have the right to 'officially' disapprove of 2 adults of legal age selecting each other as spouses?
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    Re: **BREAKING** U.S. Supreme Court Refuses to Rule on Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Having already ruled the DOMA unconstitutional, this seems to me to be commendable consistency on the part of the SCOTUS.
    I think this particular decision is them just chickening out.
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: **BREAKING** U.S. Supreme Court Refuses to Rule on Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    It should be no more a 'state issue' than segregated schools were a state issue. Of course that court had balls.
    This is fully consistent with the SCOTUS' earlier ruling against DOMA, taking the federal government out of the marriage definition business.
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    Re: **BREAKING** U.S. Supreme Court Refuses to Rule on Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    Does the government have the right to 'officially' disapprove of 2 adults of legal age selecting each other as spouses?
    I think the only confusion here is phrasing.
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: **BREAKING** U.S. Supreme Court Refuses to Rule on Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    This is fully consistent with the SCOTUS' earlier ruling against DOMA, taking the federal government out of the marriage definition business.
    Um, eleven states just had their definition of marriage overturned by Federal courts.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: **BREAKING** U.S. Supreme Court Refuses to Rule on Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    I think this particular decision is them just chickening out.
    Sometimes judicial restraint is just judicial restraint, and very healthy. They already set DOMA aside, and rulings in lower federal courts to date have invalidated state laws against SSM. They are signalling that they will not pull a rabbit out of a hat for the anti-SSM folks. You should take "yes" for an answer.
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    Re: **BREAKING** U.S. Supreme Court Refuses to Rule on Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Um, eleven states just had their definition of marriage overturned by Federal courts.
    Yes. Please see my #266. The federal government is out of the marriage definition business. Federal courts, another matter entirely, still have jurisdiction.
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    Re: **BREAKING** U.S. Supreme Court Refuses to Rule on Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Sometimes judicial restraint is just judicial restraint, and very healthy. They already set DOMA aside, and rulings in lower federal courts to date have invalidated state laws against SSM. They are signalling that they will not pull a rabbit out of a hat for the anti-SSM folks. You should take "yes" for an answer.
    I don't advocate judicial restraint in cases of upholding individual liberty. :
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: **BREAKING** U.S. Supreme Court Refuses to Rule on Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    Does the government have the right to 'officially' disapprove of 2 adults of legal age selecting each other as spouses?
    I hope that was a rhetorical question tossed my way since I'm pro-SSM.

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    Re: **BREAKING** U.S. Supreme Court Refuses to Rule on Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    I don't advocate judicial restraint in cases of upholding individual liberty. :
    Since this matter concerns a profound and far reaching shift in public attitudes in the space of no more than a generation I think the SCOTUS is wise to let this extremely rapid evolution take its course naturally. Remember that rulings in the lower federal courts already make it clear there will be no backsliding. This will only end one way, and soon.
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