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    Re: **BREAKING** U.S. Supreme Court Refuses to Rule on Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    If that's the narrative that SSM advocates want to portray that's fine by me. I see it as yet another victory that the federal government won't be taking over SSM with a SCOTUS ruling - regardless of which way they would rule.
    Err... but the ruling upholds the Federal courts decisions and rejects the states efforts to seek remedy for those decisions. That is the opposite of what you're talking about.

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    Re: **BREAKING** U.S. Supreme Court Refuses to Rule on Gay Marriage

    This issue needs to be out to bed once and for all on a national level. It's exhausting.

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    Re: **BREAKING** U.S. Supreme Court Refuses to Rule on Gay Marriage

    There is no way to read this as anything other than a major rebuff to SSM opponents and an affirmation of the decisions of the Federal courts.

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    Re: **BREAKING** U.S. Supreme Court Refuses to Rule on Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    This issue needs to be out to bed once and for all on a national level. It's exhausting.
    Nice metaphors. Put to bed... exhausting...same sex....nicely done
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    Re: **BREAKING** U.S. Supreme Court Refuses to Rule on Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    The Supreme Court really can't avoid this issue forever. It will come back to them if, and more likely when, a gay couple, legally married in one state moves to a state where SSM is not recognized and demands equal treatment under the law. Likewise, when a gay couple who live in a state where SSM is not recognized travels to a state that does recognize it and legally marries only to return to their home state and demand equal treatment under their home state's laws.
    That has already happened. Until there is a split in the appeals circuits, which is likely when the 6th circuit of appeals finally makes their ruling, there is nothing to push SCOTUS to take up the appeals. And if the unlikely event occurs that there is never a split in the appeals circuits, meaning that every appeals court rules the same way, then SCOTUS could theoretically never take up the issue.

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    Re: **BREAKING** U.S. Supreme Court Refuses to Rule on Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    I disagree - they can leave it to the lower courts forever and continue to refuse to take the issue up. It should be IMO a state issue not a federal issue. Government really has no business being in the middle of marriage of any sort.
    I can kind of get behind this idea. The only place I think that the federal government needs to step in though, is to say that if a state is going to recognize marriages from another state as valid, they must recognize ALL marriages from another state as valid. They can't pick and choose.
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    Re: **BREAKING** U.S. Supreme Court Refuses to Rule on Gay Marriage

    The decision will also effectively legalize SSM in 30 states, if the 9th Circuit also rules positively then it could expand to 35, if the 6th Circuit goes you'll have 39. This is the beginning of the end and hopefully we can soon put this issue behind us.

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    Re: **BREAKING** U.S. Supreme Court Refuses to Rule on Gay Marriage

    There is no precedent for a SCOTUS ruling. There is not circuit conflict as of yet, which is generally why they would take up a case like this. In the case that circuit conflict arises, it would be shocking to see them not take it up.
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    Re: **BREAKING** U.S. Supreme Court Refuses to Rule on Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    U.S. Supreme Court Refuses to Rule on Gay Marriage - Bloomberg



    The SCOTUS has ruled they will leave it up to the states to decide and will not take up a nationwide ruling on same sex marriage. This means that lower court ruling will stay in place unless challenged in the future. No federal ruling of marriage is in the near future....
    Bravo. This is exactly what they should have done.

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    Re: **BREAKING** U.S. Supreme Court Refuses to Rule on Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    If that's the narrative that SSM advocates want to portray that's fine by me. I see it as yet another victory that the federal government won't be taking over SSM with a SCOTUS ruling - regardless of which way they would rule.
    To put it simply, this denial of review by SCOTUS allows federal court rulings over 11 states that effectively ends state bans on same sex marriage in those states, and you see that as a victory for states rights? Do I have that right?

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