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    Re: **BREAKING** U.S. Supreme Court Refuses to Rule on Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Hamster Buddha View Post
    I don't really follow the SSM scene much but, are there any states where the courts have upheld local laws banning SSM?
    A state judge in Louisiana did but he does not have authority over federal courts so his ruling was more symbolic.

    There are some lower federal courts that have stayed state bans, but their rulings are under appeal in higher US Circuit Courts of Appeal.

    Most of the challenges to SSM are out of the lower courts and the States are appealing over-turning the bans in the US Circuit Courts of appeal.


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    Re: **BREAKING** U.S. Supreme Court Refuses to Rule on Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by 1750Texan View Post
    marriage as a right predates the US Constitution...just as the right to self defense.

    9th amendment... not all rights are enumerated in the constitution.
    No, it doesn't, and to whom specifically do those unremunerated rights fall to? The STATES and the PEOPLE, not the federal.

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    Re: **BREAKING** U.S. Supreme Court Refuses to Rule on Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Hamster Buddha View Post
    There's also something to be said about the rights of the minority here. After all, I doubt you'd really need protections for things like speech and the press, if you are only going to be speaking in glowing terms about whoever is in power at the moment.
    I don't quite understand how the rights of the minority are in conflict with marriage, speech, or press.


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    Re: **BREAKING** U.S. Supreme Court Refuses to Rule on Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    No, it doesn't, and to whom specifically do those unremunerated rights fall to? The STATES and the PEOPLE, not the federal.
    What do you mean it doesn't?

    Did people marry before the Constitution was signed...surely you are not suggesting that the US Constitution was needed for persons to marry.


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    Re: **BREAKING** U.S. Supreme Court Refuses to Rule on Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Hamster Buddha View Post
    I don't really follow the SSM scene much but, are there any states where the courts have upheld local laws banning SSM?
    Not anymore...
    "The Supreme Court cleared the way Monday for an immediate expansion of same-sex marriage by unexpectedly and tersely turning away appeals from five states seeking to prohibit gay and lesbian unions. The court's order effectively makes gay marriage legal now in 30 states." Court clears the way for gay marriage expansion


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    Re: **BREAKING** U.S. Supreme Court Refuses to Rule on Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    marriage is a fundamental right. it's pretty important for the highest court in the land to prioritize that when a fundamental right is being denied in some states. they completely screwed up in deciding not to hear the case.
    Not a good enough reason. There are thousands of cases filed each year in federal court that involve fundamental rights.

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    Re: **BREAKING** U.S. Supreme Court Refuses to Rule on Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Hamster Buddha View Post
    I don't really follow the SSM scene much but, are there any states where the courts have upheld local laws banning SSM?
    The tally is currently 41 wins and 2 losses. The losses were a state judge in Tennessee and a federal judge in Louisiana. I posted the pdfs to the those rulings below.

    http://sblog.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-con...ing-8-5-14.pdf
    http://freemarry.3cdn.net/f1b2d8bccd..._o2m6bhyfu.pdf

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    Re: **BREAKING** U.S. Supreme Court Refuses to Rule on Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    marriage is a fundamental right. it's pretty important for the highest court in the land to prioritize that when a fundamental right is being denied in some states. they completely screwed up in deciding not to hear the case.
    Quick point, nobody is being told they can't get married. It isn't a fundamental right to change marriage to suit your own needs. That's the real issue.
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    Re: **BREAKING** U.S. Supreme Court Refuses to Rule on Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by 1750Texan View Post
    What do you mean it doesn't?

    Did people marry before the Constitution was signed...surely you are not suggesting that the US Constitution was needed for persons to marry.
    Yes, they did, but it was subject to the existing state's licensing requirements. It was not a right. And I am suggesting no such thing. I am clearly stating that marriage is not mentioned in the US Constitution but what is, is that any unremunerated rights pass directly, not to the fed to decide, but the states and the people.

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    Re: **BREAKING** U.S. Supreme Court Refuses to Rule on Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by DocileLion View Post
    Promoting and sanctioning marriage for one group and denying the same protections to another group is a violation of the 14th amendment of the US Constitution. The government has no right to handpick who gets certain protections and who does not.
    Yes, that's what the plaintiffs argue.

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