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    Re: **BREAKING** U.S. Supreme Court Refuses to Rule on Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Well they're going to have to live with it then, or live without it. That's where this is headed. Why isn't it discrimination that an unmarried couple living together, or just any two folks living together don't have access to those same benefits?

    They do have access to those same benefits. They walk down to the courthouse. Get a marriage license, get married and have access.


    In (soon to be) 30 states the couple living together or two folks can be either male/male, female/female, or male/female. In 20 states there is a gender based limitation.

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    Re: **BREAKING** U.S. Supreme Court Refuses to Rule on Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I was referring to where you said this:



    I took that to mean that the government should not sanction or promote marriage. I apologize if I misunderstood. But if I did get it right, the way the government sanctions and promotes marriage is with the benefits to marriage.
    Maybe if I know which specific rights you're talking about...?

    The government shouldn't be regulating marriage, and who can marry. It should be legal for any 2 (or more) of age adults to decide who they marry, period. The government should burden itself with more pressing issues. JMO of course.

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    Re: **BREAKING** U.S. Supreme Court Refuses to Rule on Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Because they can take the steps to get those benefits. They are not barred from doing that.
    Yeah, they are, by all the same arguments for homosexual marriage. Why shouldn't four roommates have the benefits. They share a living space and their lives (somewhat at least), if they all agree to have sex they're all the way there. Why do they need a license for benefits?

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    Re: **BREAKING** U.S. Supreme Court Refuses to Rule on Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    I wouldn't say that it's a victory in an odd-way. Leaving the lower court decisions in place means almost the same as if they had decided on it (in favor of SSM). In essence, by not hearing the cases they're essentially saying that the decisions were correct.
    That is exactly what the Court is saying.


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    Re: **BREAKING** U.S. Supreme Court Refuses to Rule on Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by 1750Texan View Post
    That is exactly what the Court is saying.
    Basically the Supreme Court has sent message to the lower courts. Ginsberg stated recently that the 6th court of Appeals will indicate if the Court hears SSM. If the 6th upholds the bans in Kentucky, Michigan, Ohio, and Tennessee, The SCOTUS would likely take up an appeal in 2016.


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    Re: **BREAKING** U.S. Supreme Court Refuses to Rule on Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by 1750Texan View Post
    Basically the Supreme Court has sent message to the lower courts. Ginsberg stated recently that the 6th court of Appeals will indicate if the Court hears SSM. If the 6th upholds the bans in Kentucky, Michigan, Ohio, and Tennessee, The SCOTUS would likely take up an appeal in 2016.
    That sucks because there is nothing I heard that indicates that they (the 6th Circuit) will not uphold the bans. This would have been a way cooler victory had it just been a unanimous set of rulings from every appeals court in the country. But I can hold out hope I guess.

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    Re: **BREAKING** U.S. Supreme Court Refuses to Rule on Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Seems you don't understand what happened here. It was the Federal appeals courts which shot down the states' laws on gay marriage. All SCOTUS did was to let those Federal appeals court decisions stand.
    To be clear, I meant I was glad the SCOTUS stayed out of it, as the federal appeals court should have also.
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    Re: **BREAKING** U.S. Supreme Court Refuses to Rule on Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Yeah, they are, by all the same arguments for homosexual marriage. Why shouldn't four roommates have the benefits. They share a living space and their lives (somewhat at least), if they all agree to have sex they're all the way there. Why do they need a license for benefits?
    That's a good question, why do they need a license for benefits? Why does anybody?

    Heck, how many married couples never have sex anymore?


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    Re: **BREAKING** U.S. Supreme Court Refuses to Rule on Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by WorldWatcher View Post
    So were you cool with the State of Alabama voting to amend it's constitution to ban interracial civil marriages? I mean the people in that State (and others) had decided how they wanted to handle things.>>>>
    That's a different topic for another thread. It's like me asking if you are cool with the Supreme Court ruling in favor of slavery.
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    Re: **BREAKING** U.S. Supreme Court Refuses to Rule on Gay Marriage

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    I like that the Feds are keeping out of it for now, the less federal intervention into States affairs, the better. I just don't like that they are allowing a handful of judges to overrule the voices of the people of an entire State when they decide how they want to handle things in their own States. This is why they got rid of the filibuster and try to flood the courts with their anti Constitutional activist judges. They know that they only need a few judges in the right places that will put the liberal agenda over the Constitution and the will of the people.
    So were you cool with the State of Alabama voting to amend it's constitution to ban interracial civil marriages? I mean the people in that State (and others) had decided how they wanted to handle things.



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    That's a different topic for another thread. It's like me asking if you are cool with the Supreme Court ruling in favor of slavery.

    Actually it is on topic to the things you said. The discussion is about "federal intervention into States affairs" (your words). "Allowing a handful of judges to overrule the voices of the people of an entire State when they decide how they want to handle things in their own States" Your words. '



    The people of Alabama voted to amend their constitution and restrict marriage based on race, the federal government intervened into that States affairs. A handful og judges overruled the voices of the people of an entire state did not get to decide how to handle things in their own state when that action was measured against the Supreme Law of the Land.



    So given the same basics, non-federal intervention, States making their own law independent to "handle things" in their State - do you support or disagree with the SCOTUS ruling in Loving?



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