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    Re: High risk Ebola could reach France and UK by end-October, scientists calculate...

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    I actually prefer a teleconference over a videoconference. I find video conferences very distracting and there always seem to be minor glitches. And I can't stand to look at myself. LOL
    About half the people on the call were located at different places across the country, and weren't even near where the call originated from. That's a good thing about teleconferencing - it keeps travel costs down. Plus, in my case, no one knew I was still in my robe, drinking my morning coffee! Don't tell anyone, okay?

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    Re: High risk Ebola could reach France and UK by end-October, scientists calculate...

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    The only Ebola "cure" (if you want to call it that) was by taking the blood of those who have natural "immunities" and giving blood transfusions to the sick in hopes the immunities bond with the sicks's immune system. It has worked with great deal of success, however the problem with this is that the majority who are "immune" carry virus that would kill those who don't share the antibodies with the individuals who gave blood.

    If we don't quarantine this Ebola outbreak it would be a pandemic - much like Mad Cows disease or Bird Flu just 10x worse given the incubation period of nearly a moth.

    Think of this - how many people do you act within a month on a personal to personal level - 100 or eve 1000's and that was before they even knew they were ill.
    Mad Cow Disease Fast Facts - CNN.com

    vCJD Statistics (Humans): (source: CDC)
    1996-2014 - 228 vCJD cases have been reported in 12 countries:
    United Kingdom - 176
    France - 27
    Ireland - 4
    United States - 4
    Spain - 5
    The Netherlands - 3
    Portugal - 2
    Canada - 2
    Italy - 2
    Japan - 1
    Saudi Arabia - 1
    Taiwan - 1
    So we're looking at... 40 cases... 50 tops? We had no deaths for H5N1....
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    Re: High risk Ebola could reach France and UK by end-October, scientists calculate...

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    About half the people on the call were located at different places across the country, and weren't even near where the call originated from. That's a good thing about teleconferencing - it keeps travel costs down. Plus, in my case, no one knew I was still in my robe, drinking my morning coffee! Don't tell anyone, okay?
    Definitely cheaper and easier than face to face meetings. I was president of a state nonprofit and just not meeting in person within the state was a lifesaver. I did tire of monthly BOD teleconferences.

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    Re: High risk Ebola could reach France and UK by end-October, scientists calculate...

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Mad Cow Disease Fast Facts - CNN.com



    So we're looking at... 40 cases... 50 tops? We had no deaths for H5N1....
    I believe spongyform encephalitis is more common than reported especially with the clandestine buthering of downer cattle (they recently caught a slaughterhouse in California doing it). Very rare but still more than reported. Older folks are probably misdiagnosed as some form of dementia and younger ones as mental illness.

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    Re: High risk Ebola could reach France and UK by end-October, scientists calculate...

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    It appears they are looking at this virus spreading.....even with High risk cases. In the meantime here in the US Duncan is in critical condition and that's with treatment. What say ye?
    What is there to say? There is a known risk of individuals infected with Ebola travelling to other countries. That's hardly news and it's something the relevant authorities were already aware of any are taking measures to account for. It's much more unlikely that there will be any kind of widespread infection in western nations given the nature of the infection and the resources we have to safely manage any cases.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    Ebola takes anything from 10-20 days to incubate - no imagine how much contact these infected people had in the time Ebola victims had contact with during the time they weren't feeling sick??????
    Ebola isn't infectious when a patient isn't showing any symptoms. It's one of the few saving graces.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    How can Ebola be fought with the airlines flying all around the world on a daily basis?
    Widespread long distance travel always presents an issue with the spread of infectious diseases but I'm not convinced it's as much a concern as it would be for others, given where the outbreak currently is and the nature of the infection.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    Will we be required to have a document from a doctor stating that we are Ebola free, along with our passport, if we have to travel worldwide in the near future?
    Unlikely. Anyone with symptoms should be (and I expect would be) refused by the airlines. There is documentation regarding flying internationally though that generally involves self-declaration (the first US case allegedly involved false information on such documents).

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    And how will we quarantine millions of people for three weeks to be sure they don't have Ebola, since it takes that long for symptoms to appear?
    If we ever get to the point of needing to quarantine millions of people, how would be the least of our worries. There is no serious prospect of it getting to that point though.

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    Re: High risk Ebola could reach France and UK by end-October, scientists calculate...

    Quote Originally Posted by HonestJoe View Post
    What is there to say? There is a known risk of individuals infected with Ebola travelling to other countries. That's hardly news and it's something the relevant authorities were already aware of any are taking measures to account for. It's much more unlikely that there will be any kind of widespread infection in western nations given the nature of the infection and the resources we have to safely manage any cases.

    Ebola isn't infectious when a patient isn't showing any symptoms. It's one of the few saving graces.

    Widespread long distance travel always presents an issue with the spread of infectious diseases but I'm not convinced it's as much a concern as it would be for others, given where the outbreak currently is and the nature of the infection.

    Unlikely. Anyone with symptoms should be (and I expect would be) refused by the airlines. There is documentation regarding flying internationally though that generally involves self-declaration (the first US case allegedly involved false information on such documents).

    If we ever get to the point of needing to quarantine millions of people, how would be the least of our worries. There is no serious prospect of it getting to that point though.


    Well it is news.....that's why the CDC already admitted there were gaps. Mistakes happen and all that.

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    Re: High risk Ebola could reach France and UK by end-October, scientists calculate...

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Well it is news.....that's why the CDC already admitted there were gaps. Mistakes happen and all that.
    That an epidemic of an infectious disease has broken out in another part of the world means that there is a risk of infected individuals travelling to other countries is not news. Beyond putting some quite high-concept numbers around the risk, this report doesn't tell us anything new. It certainly doesn't tell the relevant experts and officials anything new as they would have long been considering this risk and how best to respond to it.

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    Re: High risk Ebola could reach France and UK by end-October, scientists calculate...

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Heya Lady P .....Well they account for countries restricting flights. Still 19 days isn't a lot of time.....is it?

    Theres always teleconferencing so I am told.
    There is, but then, you could catch a computer virus.
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    Re: High risk Ebola could reach France and UK by end-October, scientists calculate...

    Quote Originally Posted by HonestJoe View Post
    That an epidemic of an infectious disease has broken out in another part of the world means that there is a risk of infected individuals travelling to other countries is not news. Beyond putting some quite high-concept numbers around the risk, this report doesn't tell us anything new. It certainly doesn't tell the relevant experts and officials anything new as they would have long been considering this risk and how best to respond to it.
    Well that part is and isn't.....it was finding the Gaps. Now we know of a couple. Which most knew would come from Human error anyways.

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    Re: High risk Ebola could reach France and UK by end-October, scientists calculate...

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Well that part is and isn't.....it was finding the Gaps. Now we know of a couple. Which most knew would come from Human error anyways.
    I'm still not clear what here is new or unexpected. This article isn't about specific gaps or flaws, just an analysis of the situation as it is known and understood. I don't want to do you a disservice but you do seem to be trying to spin it up in to something more significant and, dare I say, scary.

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