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    Shocking North Korea Development!

    Kim out of sight, North Korean leaders visit South - CNN.com

    I have been following and studying North Korea ever since I was stationed there back in 2006. There have been several reports of power struggles within the North Korean regime. Most of the time its just a byproduct of the media just trying to gain ratings and print headlines. I have also been following the rise of the new leader, Kim Jong Un, and have noticed several interesting things. While watching video of him, I notice an uneasiness about him as if he is not comfortable in his shoes. He does seem, unlike his father, more like a puppet. Kind of like a blind dog being guided by some outside entity. I feel, that Kim Jong Un may not actually be running the show. That is why there was a recent and shockingly public struggle for power between him and his uncle who was executed. It was a battle that Kim Jong Un won, even with the little experience he has as the new leader. Which to me shows the position itself has a lot of clout, no matter who posseses the title. But I feel that may be coming to an end. The current unexpected outreach by Military leaders from North Korea seems to be out of step with the traditional way North Korea deals with the outside world. You would suspect some type of announcement by Kim Jong Un for a meeting, rather then a surprise visit by Military Leaders. It seems to me, this may be a move by the powerful military arm of North Korea to gain some type of credibility and status from under Kim Jong Un. I feel they are taking advantage of his current state of health to gain influence with the south and the international community. Its way to early to tell, but I wonder if Kim Jong Un has fallen deathly ill, has been assassinated or has already died from whatever he was stricken with. I suspect we will know more very soon.
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    Re: Shocking North Korea Development!

    That would a hell of an event. No doubt there's a faction within the governnent says: "man, this **** ain't workin!"
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    This has really NEVER HAPPENED! There has never been a meeting between the Military and South Korean government leaders which was not proceeded by an announcement by the Leader in some shape or form. And also never has occurred unless it was necessary to quell tensions on the peninsula. Both of which, are not a factor at the current time. So it's interesting that a meeting is taking place, and will be interesting to see what the reasoning behind it is. I am surprised this is not being covered and commented on more then it is. Then again, I guess the constant media coverage of previous "instabilities" may have desensitized people to the point where they don't see this as a notable event.
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    Hm. Just to push back - there has been lots of communication out of North Korea directed at South Korea that has come out of the senior defense committees. When we used to assess the relative weight behind public pronouncements, they usually got the highest markings. I do not think this is as new (though it is interesting) as you are suggesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Hm. Just to push back - there has been lots of communication out of North Korea directed at South Korea that has come out of the senior defense committees. When we used to assess the relative weight behind public pronouncements, they usually got the highest markings. I do not think this is as new (though it is interesting) as you are suggesting.
    It is new. The military in North Korea is generally controlled by the supreme leader of the country. No move like this would ever happen without the blessing of the leader directly. So far, there seems to be no indication that King Jong Un directed his top military leaders to sit down with South Korean leaders. That is why this is such a big deal.
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    Phat little Phuker can't defend himself. They'll take him out. What's next?

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    Re: Shocking North Korea Development!

    Kim Ding Dong would rather see South Korea turned into a smoldering crater...not send military reps to hand out peaceful overtures.

    Something must be rocking in Pyongyang to bring this on. Too bad all we can do here in the US for now is speculate. North Korea is so unplugged from the rest of the world, no one knows what goes on unless it's first approved by Dear Midget..i mean Leader.

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    Re: Shocking North Korea Development!

    Quote Originally Posted by Capster78 View Post
    It is new. The military in North Korea is generally controlled by the supreme leader of the country.
    and still is, to all available evidence - though his condition is worse than suspected and he is out of commission, that could deteriorate.

    No move like this would ever happen without the blessing of the leader directly. So far, there seems to be no indication that King Jong Un directed his top military leaders to sit down with South Korean leaders. That is why this is such a big deal.
    Oh. You must have extremely good SIGINT to be aware of all of the interactions between KJU and his top brass.

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    Re: Shocking North Korea Development!

    Quote Originally Posted by Capster78 View Post
    Kim out of sight, North Korean leaders visit South - CNN.com

    I have been following and studying North Korea ever since I was stationed there back in 2006. There have been several reports of power struggles within the North Korean regime. Most of the time its just a byproduct of the media just trying to gain ratings and print headlines. I have also been following the rise of the new leader, Kim Jong Un, and have noticed several interesting things. While watching video of him, I notice an uneasiness about him as if he is not comfortable in his shoes. He does seem, unlike his father, more like a puppet. Kind of like a blind dog being guided by some outside entity. I feel, that Kim Jong Un may not actually be running the show. That is why there was a recent and shockingly public struggle for power between him and his uncle who was executed. It was a battle that Kim Jong Un won, even with the little experience he has as the new leader. Which to me shows the position itself has a lot of clout, no matter who posseses the title. But I feel that may be coming to an end. The current unexpected outreach by Military leaders from North Korea seems to be out of step with the traditional way North Korea deals with the outside world. You would suspect some type of announcement by Kim Jong Un for a meeting, rather then a surprise visit by Military Leaders. It seems to me, this may be a move by the powerful military arm of North Korea to gain some type of credibility and status from under Kim Jong Un. I feel they are taking advantage of his current state of health to gain influence with the south and the international community. Its way to early to tell, but I wonder if Kim Jong Un has fallen deathly ill, has been assassinated or has already died from whatever he was stricken with. I suspect we will know more very soon.
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    Re: Shocking North Korea Development!

    Quote Originally Posted by Capster78 View Post
    Kim out of sight, North Korean leaders visit South - CNN.com

    I have been following and studying North Korea ever since I was stationed there back in 2006. There have been several reports of power struggles within the North Korean regime. Most of the time its just a byproduct of the media just trying to gain ratings and print headlines. I have also been following the rise of the new leader, Kim Jong Un, and have noticed several interesting things. While watching video of him, I notice an uneasiness about him as if he is not comfortable in his shoes. He does seem, unlike his father, more like a puppet. Kind of like a blind dog being guided by some outside entity. I feel, that Kim Jong Un may not actually be running the show. That is why there was a recent and shockingly public struggle for power between him and his uncle who was executed. It was a battle that Kim Jong Un won, even with the little experience he has as the new leader. Which to me shows the position itself has a lot of clout, no matter who posseses the title. But I feel that may be coming to an end. The current unexpected outreach by Military leaders from North Korea seems to be out of step with the traditional way North Korea deals with the outside world. You would suspect some type of announcement by Kim Jong Un for a meeting, rather then a surprise visit by Military Leaders. It seems to me, this may be a move by the powerful military arm of North Korea to gain some type of credibility and status from under Kim Jong Un. I feel they are taking advantage of his current state of health to gain influence with the south and the international community. Its way to early to tell, but I wonder if Kim Jong Un has fallen deathly ill, has been assassinated or has already died from whatever he was stricken with. I suspect we will know more very soon.
    You were stationed in North Korea? I was lucky . . . I was in the South back in the 1970s. It was primitive in the South back then, but I can't even imagine how bad you had in the North. Oh . . . and that other stuff? Yeah.

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