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    Re: Shocking North Korea Development!

    Quote Originally Posted by Capster78 View Post
    Certainly, whoever is in charge at the moment, would not be the one that would show up for the talks with South Korea. They would only be a representative of that person, who every he/she is. And they may not want to be known right away, as there may still be fear of any reprisals if in fact King Jong Un survives his ordeal.
    what you are saying is not impossible. But it is also not indicated by the evidence. We would be more likely to see a thorough house-cleaning after a coup.

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    Re: Shocking North Korea Development!

    I wonder about the fallout, if the people of North Korea ever get the truth of what has
    been going on.

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    Re: Shocking North Korea Development!

    Quote Originally Posted by Capster78 View Post
    It is educated speculation. As I have said, if you look thru the history of how the North and South have dealt with each other, it has always been a highly politicized event when they meet. And in that type of highly political environment, the leader of N.Korea is always the one that wants to be seen making the decisions so that there is no mistake as to who is in charge.
    Do you believe that *all* their meetings have been publicized? @_@
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    Re: Shocking North Korea Development!

    Quote Originally Posted by Capster78 View Post
    Kim out of sight, North Korean leaders visit South - CNN.com

    I have been following and studying North Korea ever since I was stationed there back in 2006. There have been several reports of power struggles within the North Korean regime. Most of the time its just a byproduct of the media just trying to gain ratings and print headlines. I have also been following the rise of the new leader, Kim Jong Un, and have noticed several interesting things. While watching video of him, I notice an uneasiness about him as if he is not comfortable in his shoes. He does seem, unlike his father, more like a puppet. Kind of like a blind dog being guided by some outside entity. I feel, that Kim Jong Un may not actually be running the show. That is why there was a recent and shockingly public struggle for power between him and his uncle who was executed. It was a battle that Kim Jong Un won, even with the little experience he has as the new leader. Which to me shows the position itself has a lot of clout, no matter who posseses the title. But I feel that may be coming to an end. The current unexpected outreach by Military leaders from North Korea seems to be out of step with the traditional way North Korea deals with the outside world. You would suspect some type of announcement by Kim Jong Un for a meeting, rather then a surprise visit by Military Leaders. It seems to me, this may be a move by the powerful military arm of North Korea to gain some type of credibility and status from under Kim Jong Un. I feel they are taking advantage of his current state of health to gain influence with the south and the international community. Its way to early to tell, but I wonder if Kim Jong Un has fallen deathly ill, has been assassinated or has already died from whatever he was stricken with. I suspect we will know more very soon.
    Interesting hypotheses. Perhaps if so, the puppet master decided the time is near for him to become the face of North Korea. Perhaps China tired of Kim Jong Un and his antics. One would assume the military leaders of the North know who butters their bread. Without China the North wouldn't be much, they depend on China for close to everything. But who knows? All we have to go on is supposition and guess work.
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    Re: Shocking North Korea Development!

    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaO01 View Post
    This could be good or bad. If there is a power struggle, the side that wants no part of peace with SK could get desparate and launch an attack.
    Yep. And Kim Ding Dong is loopy enough to pop off whatever weapons he has without any care about the consequences.

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    Re: Shocking North Korea Development!

    Quote Originally Posted by Capster78 View Post
    Kim Jong Un would make any order apparent, not doing so makes it look as if he does not have control of the military. That is why whenever moves like this are made, they are publically announced by either his team of propagandists thru the media, or by his own mouth.
    Very interesting, thanks for posting. So, I'm curious now: I'm sort of going with Sherman on this; is it possible that the kid just wanted to keep something like this under wraps - so to speak, as far as it goes with NK, or is it your opinion that Kim is in deep trouble? I saw a video on the news a couple of days ago and the story was about the kid's health: he was limping. I said it was gout from all the booze and broads... Frankly I'm surprised that junior lived this long; it's like a midievel kingdom over there.
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    Re: Shocking North Korea Development!

    Quote Originally Posted by DiavoTheMiavo View Post
    You were stationed in North Korea? I was lucky . . . I was in the South back in the 1970s. It was primitive in the South back then, but I can't even imagine how bad you had in the North. Oh . . . and that other stuff? Yeah.
    I drove through the South during the 1970's, maybe you saw me. Were you in Alabama or Georgia back then ?

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    Re: Shocking North Korea Development!

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    If I was privy to inside intel, I wouldn't be risking my career by posting that material here. Everything you read is A) assessment (which is what even those with "inside intelligence" also do) which is B) available open-source.

    If you are looking for a good aggregator (and whom I use a lot), I would recommend either STRATFOR, or, if you are unwilling to pay, KGS' Nightwatch.

    Nightwatch Today on this subject:

    ...North Korea-South Korea: On Saturday, the Director of the General Political Department of the Korean People's Army who also is a vice chairman of the National Defense Commission, Vice Marshal Hwang Pyong-so, led a delegation to Inchon to attend the closing ceremonies for the Asian Games. The delegation included Choe Ryong-hae and Kim Yang-gon, two top party officials responsible for relations with South Korea.

    The National Security Advisor to South Korean President Park, Kim Kwan-jin, led a delegation that met the North Koreans for talks. The South Korean Unification Ministry announced that the two sides agreed to hold another round of high-level talks in late October or early November.

    The Unification Ministry also said that Vice Marshal Hwang assured South Korea that North Korean leader Kim Jong Un "has no problems with his health." .

    Comment: South Korean and some other media described the North Korean visit as a surprise because it was announced only an hour before the arrival of the North Koreans. In fact, arrangements for a delegation visit probably were made before the North announced it would send a team to the Asian Games. The performance of the North Korean teams in winning medals probably assured a senior North Korean delegation would attend the closing ceremonies. The South almost certainly subsidized the North's sports team.

    Media outlets are correct in describing the announcement about future high-level talks as a breakthrough, after months of accusations and denunciations in North Korean propaganda this year. The major achievement of the weekend talks was the agreement to talk again.

    The North's motives and intentions are not clear. What is clear is that the underlying strategic issues - North Korea's nuclear weapons and missile programs and the South's Alliance with the US - remain unchanged. The only recent changes in the North are the absence of Kim Jong Un, the North's endless need for assistance and its participation in the Asian Games.

    North Korea-China: The Daily NK reported that the annual congratulatory letter sent from North Korea on China's National Day on 1 October lacked mention of a special relationship. The letter was full of praise, but described the relationship as between "blood brothers."

    Comment: The traditional formula described the relationship as close as lips and teeth. The two have not used that terminology since Kim Jong Un came to power.

    The tone of the North Korean greeting reciprocates that of the message which Chinese President Xi Jinping sent to North Korea on its Founder's Day on 9 September. The significance is that it reinforces the judgment that China and North Korea relations remain strained...
    Thanks for clearing up you don't have any inside intelligence or any more information than is accessible to anyone else. Got it.

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    Re: Shocking North Korea Development!

    Quote Originally Posted by Proud South Korean View Post
    Really? You were stationed in North Korea?
    Rolleyes is right- he was not stationed in NK if he is an American,
    and the only way for anyone else to be stationed there would be
    as a diplomat.

    IOW OP tyoed and it was South Korea where he was stationed,
    or OP is not an American, or OP is an impostor.

    BTW Proud South Korean, you ought to know more about what
    might be going on in Korea than the rest of us- do you have any
    thoughts to share?

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    Re: Shocking North Korea Development!

    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaO01 View Post
    Thanks for clearing up you don't have any inside intelligence or any more information than is accessible to anyone else. Got it.

    So how that's Al Qaeda jihad going in India again? LOL
    that's not actually what I said, but if you want to go with it...

    As for AQIS? They look fairly problematic.

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