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    Re: Shocking North Korea Development!

    Quote Originally Posted by Capster78 View Post
    You don't need any inside intelligence to know that the military does not jump until the leader says jump. That's how his uncle got executed......
    His uncle got executed because he represented an alternate power base and was closely tied to the Chinese, with whom KJU is having problems. I thought he might wait at least until his aunt was dead to take out ole JST, but either he felt that the time was good, or he just doesn't care. He won because KJU retains effective control of the guns in North Korea

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    Re: Shocking North Korea Development!

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    Yes, because it would be a stage in which the successors could cement their presense on by appearing with the South Koreans in a meeting to debate issues on the peninsula. Whoever is seen to be the one in charge of confronting the south, we be seen as the one who has the power in the regime.
    Er.... no. Whoever is in charge of being the guy on the stage dealing with South Korea is the guy who is being prepped by the guy who is actually in charge to be the Fall Guy.

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    LOL On the news yesterday they said he was out of sight because 'he had injured his ankles.'

    Ha ha ha. Well if that's true, I'd speculate it's gout, not some injury. Gout can be the result of a very very self-indulgent diet and I'm sure no one says no to the little pudge.
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    Re: Shocking North Korea Development!

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    Kim out of sight, North Korean leaders visit South - CNN.com

    I have been following and studying North Korea ever since I was stationed there back in 2006. There have been several reports of power struggles within the North Korean regime. Most of the time its just a byproduct of the media just trying to gain ratings and print headlines. I have also been following the rise of the new leader, Kim Jong Un, and have noticed several interesting things. While watching video of him, I notice an uneasiness about him as if he is not comfortable in his shoes. He does seem, unlike his father, more like a puppet. Kind of like a blind dog being guided by some outside entity. I feel, that Kim Jong Un may not actually be running the show. That is why there was a recent and shockingly public struggle for power between him and his uncle who was executed. It was a battle that Kim Jong Un won, even with the little experience he has as the new leader. Which to me shows the position itself has a lot of clout, no matter who posseses the title. But I feel that may be coming to an end. The current unexpected outreach by Military leaders from North Korea seems to be out of step with the traditional way North Korea deals with the outside world. You would suspect some type of announcement by Kim Jong Un for a meeting, rather then a surprise visit by Military Leaders. It seems to me, this may be a move by the powerful military arm of North Korea to gain some type of credibility and status from under Kim Jong Un. I feel they are taking advantage of his current state of health to gain influence with the south and the international community. Its way to early to tell, but I wonder if Kim Jong Un has fallen deathly ill, has been assassinated or has already died from whatever he was stricken with. I suspect we will know more very soon.
    I agree that the family run dictatorship may soon come to an end. One of two things will happen. either a military junta will take over or the entire regime will crash and the north and south will re-unite. The population is starving. I don't think the regime can hold on a lot longer.

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    Re: Shocking North Korea Development!

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    His uncle got executed because he represented an alternate power base and was closely tied to the Chinese, with whom KJU is having problems. I thought he might wait at least until his aunt was dead to take out ole JST, but either he felt that the time was good, or he just doesn't care. He won because KJU retains effective control of the guns in North Korea
    So are you privy to inside intelligence or are you just speculating like the rest of us?

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    Re: Shocking North Korea Development!

    Quote Originally Posted by Capster78 View Post
    Kim out of sight, North Korean leaders visit South - CNN.com

    I have been following and studying North Korea ever since I was stationed there back in 2006. There have been several reports of power struggles within the North Korean regime. Most of the time its just a byproduct of the media just trying to gain ratings and print headlines. I have also been following the rise of the new leader, Kim Jong Un, and have noticed several interesting things. While watching video of him, I notice an uneasiness about him as if he is not comfortable in his shoes. He does seem, unlike his father, more like a puppet. Kind of like a blind dog being guided by some outside entity. I feel, that Kim Jong Un may not actually be running the show. That is why there was a recent and shockingly public struggle for power between him and his uncle who was executed. It was a battle that Kim Jong Un won, even with the little experience he has as the new leader. Which to me shows the position itself has a lot of clout, no matter who posseses the title. But I feel that may be coming to an end. The current unexpected outreach by Military leaders from North Korea seems to be out of step with the traditional way North Korea deals with the outside world. You would suspect some type of announcement by Kim Jong Un for a meeting, rather then a surprise visit by Military Leaders. It seems to me, this may be a move by the powerful military arm of North Korea to gain some type of credibility and status from under Kim Jong Un. I feel they are taking advantage of his current state of health to gain influence with the south and the international community. Its way to early to tell, but I wonder if Kim Jong Un has fallen deathly ill, has been assassinated or has already died from whatever he was stricken with. I suspect we will know more very soon.
    Let me guess he broke is legs?

    Maybe he can sue Rodman for food aid and lots of cash because he made the 5 foot 1 dictator "dunk" (like his dad claimed he could)

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    Re: Shocking North Korea Development!

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Er.... no. Whoever is in charge of being the guy on the stage dealing with South Korea is the guy who is being prepped by the guy who is actually in charge to be the Fall Guy.
    Certainly, whoever is in charge at the moment, would not be the one that would show up for the talks with South Korea. They would only be a representative of that person, who every he/she is. And they may not want to be known right away, as there may still be fear of any reprisals if in fact King Jong Un survives his ordeal.
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    Re: Shocking North Korea Development!

    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaO01 View Post
    So are you privy to inside intelligence or are you just speculating like the rest of us?
    It is educated speculation. As I have said, if you look thru the history of how the North and South have dealt with each other, it has always been a highly politicized event when they meet. And in that type of highly political environment, the leader of N.Korea is always the one that wants to be seen making the decisions so that there is no mistake as to who is in charge.
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    Re: Shocking North Korea Development!

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    Let me guess he broke is legs?

    Maybe he can sue Rodman for food aid and lots of cash because he made the 5 foot 1 dictator "dunk" (like his dad claimed he could)
    Gout can be deadly, especially when the person has other medical factors that exastribate it like diabeties or other medical factors. His entire family is stricken with numerous medical factors that have lead to death at young ages.
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    Re: Shocking North Korea Development!

    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaO01 View Post
    So are you privy to inside intelligence or are you just speculating like the rest of us?
    If I was privy to inside intel, I wouldn't be risking my career by posting that material here. Everything you read is A) assessment (which is what even those with "inside intelligence" also do) which is B) available open-source.

    If you are looking for a good aggregator (and whom I use a lot), I would recommend either STRATFOR, or, if you are unwilling to pay, KGS' Nightwatch.

    Nightwatch Today on this subject:

    ...North Korea-South Korea: On Saturday, the Director of the General Political Department of the Korean People's Army who also is a vice chairman of the National Defense Commission, Vice Marshal Hwang Pyong-so, led a delegation to Inchon to attend the closing ceremonies for the Asian Games. The delegation included Choe Ryong-hae and Kim Yang-gon, two top party officials responsible for relations with South Korea.

    The National Security Advisor to South Korean President Park, Kim Kwan-jin, led a delegation that met the North Koreans for talks. The South Korean Unification Ministry announced that the two sides agreed to hold another round of high-level talks in late October or early November.

    The Unification Ministry also said that Vice Marshal Hwang assured South Korea that North Korean leader Kim Jong Un "has no problems with his health." .

    Comment: South Korean and some other media described the North Korean visit as a surprise because it was announced only an hour before the arrival of the North Koreans. In fact, arrangements for a delegation visit probably were made before the North announced it would send a team to the Asian Games. The performance of the North Korean teams in winning medals probably assured a senior North Korean delegation would attend the closing ceremonies. The South almost certainly subsidized the North's sports team.

    Media outlets are correct in describing the announcement about future high-level talks as a breakthrough, after months of accusations and denunciations in North Korean propaganda this year. The major achievement of the weekend talks was the agreement to talk again.

    The North's motives and intentions are not clear. What is clear is that the underlying strategic issues - North Korea's nuclear weapons and missile programs and the South's Alliance with the US - remain unchanged. The only recent changes in the North are the absence of Kim Jong Un, the North's endless need for assistance and its participation in the Asian Games.

    North Korea-China: The Daily NK reported that the annual congratulatory letter sent from North Korea on China's National Day on 1 October lacked mention of a special relationship. The letter was full of praise, but described the relationship as between "blood brothers."

    Comment: The traditional formula described the relationship as close as lips and teeth. The two have not used that terminology since Kim Jong Un came to power.

    The tone of the North Korean greeting reciprocates that of the message which Chinese President Xi Jinping sent to North Korea on its Founder's Day on 9 September. The significance is that it reinforces the judgment that China and North Korea relations remain strained...
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