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    Re: Major Fire Burning At Flight 93 Memorial, 9/11 Artifacts Burning

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    So, are we to determine that because Galileo was possibly mistreated centuries passed, that means you are, or would be in support of arsonists that burned down a memorial to individuals that prevented more possible deaths by sacrificing their own lives that day? Is that what you think Henry? Really? :
    No J-MAC, that's not what I think. Apologies for my previous post being a bit too subtle for you to grasp. My bad.

    Galileo was ridiculed and worse for his heresy. Lo and behold, it turned out the man was quite right.

    People today who point out the bloody obvious--there was no Boeing at Shanksville (and thus no pax either)--are also seen as heretics by those embracing "conventional wisdom". And like Galileo, they are simply speaking the obvious truth.

    As a thoroughly modern Orwell put it, in a time of universal deception (or ignorance), speaking the truth is a radical act.

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    Re: Major Fire Burning At Flight 93 Memorial, 9/11 Artifacts Burning

    Quote Originally Posted by Henry David View Post
    Galileo was ridiculed and worse for his heresy. Lo and behold, it turned out the man was quite right.

    People today who point out the bloody obvious--there was no Boeing at Shanksville (and thus no pax either)--are also seen as heretics by those embracing "conventional wisdom". And like Galileo, they are simply speaking the obvious truth.
    As a side note, Gallileo's story is a little more complex and he was not speaking the obvious truth, nor did he suffer for heresy in and of itself.

    Gallileo was invited to demonstrate his claims mathematically. The opposing side was taken by a church official who also used mathematics to refute Gallileo. Very few people then, or now, have sufficent mathematical knowledge to offer a coherent argument for either side.

    That aside, Gallileo proved his mathematical model was correct. He did not suffer any severe concequences- and was even allowed to discuss his ideas further if he gave equal time to the Church's position. But.... Gallileo pushed the envelope further when he wrote a book sarcstically depicting the Pope was a simpleton. Gallileo had also earlier managed to alienate the Jesuits with his cutting wit during a debate about comets.

    In short, Gallileo was not perscecuted for heresy per se, but rather for haveing heretical views while not knowing when to shut up. That does not make his perscecution right- but mocking any authority was just not a good idea in 1616.
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    Re: Major Fire Burning At Flight 93 Memorial, 9/11 Artifacts Burning

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    So you made it up so you could blame it on the left?

    I'm not surprised
    No, the investigation isnt done yet, but someone mentioned arson earlier in the thread. But like i said i wouldn't be surprised. Stick that in your pipe.
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    Re: Major Fire Burning At Flight 93 Memorial, 9/11 Artifacts Burning

    Quote Originally Posted by Henry David View Post
    No J-MAC, that's not what I think. Apologies for my previous post being a bit too subtle for you to grasp. My bad.

    Galileo was ridiculed and worse for his heresy. Lo and behold, it turned out the man was quite right.

    People today who point out the bloody obvious--there was no Boeing at Shanksville (and thus no pax either)--are also seen as heretics by those embracing "conventional wisdom". And like Galileo, they are simply speaking the obvious truth.

    As a thoroughly modern Orwell put it, in a time of universal deception (or ignorance), speaking the truth is a radical act.
    Great...9/11 truther nonsense...you should have stopped typing at "apologies"..
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    Re: Major Fire Burning At Flight 93 Memorial, 9/11 Artifacts Burning

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    No, the investigation isnt done yet, but someone mentioned arson earlier in the thread. But like i said i wouldn't be surprised. Stick that in your pipe.
    Well, if someone on the internet mentioned it, it's reasonable to blame the left.
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    Re: Major Fire Burning At Flight 93 Memorial, 9/11 Artifacts Burning

    Quote Originally Posted by USViking View Post
    We are supposed to be mourning them, as we ought mourn the loss of any important historical artifact.
    Come on, this isn't the rosetta stone we're talking about here.

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    Re: Major Fire Burning At Flight 93 Memorial, 9/11 Artifacts Burning

    Quote Originally Posted by Napoleon View Post
    Come on, this isn't the rosetta stone we're talking about here.
    An artifact need not be Rosetta Stone-class to be due mourning at its destruction.

    Something to bear in mind is that not many aircraft artifacts survived the high speed collisions of 9/11, making those that did survive all the more precious.

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    Re: Major Fire Burning At Flight 93 Memorial, 9/11 Artifacts Burning

    Yes, we have the government we deserve.

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    Re: Major Fire Burning At Flight 93 Memorial, 9/11 Artifacts Burning

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Well, if someone on the internet mentioned it, it's reasonable to blame the left.
    So, by your logic here, no one should give a crap about what you say here either...thanks for the candor.
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    Re: Major Fire Burning At Flight 93 Memorial, 9/11 Artifacts Burning

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
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    Major Fire Burning At Flight 93 Memorial, 9/11 Artifacts BurningExcuse me, but no Mod added the tag. The OP did. It represents respect to be given to someone, generally a public figure, who died. It is not appropriate for this thread.
    I think in a thread like this, it's best to be respectful lest this turn into conspiracy/truther territory...

    Quote Originally Posted by Henry David View Post
    How kind! I wonder if people felt the same way about the way Galileo was treated all those years ago?
    That didn't take long...

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