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    Re: U.S. Nurses say they are unprepared to handle Ebola patients.....

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    I prefer we let the illness burn itself out right where it is, close our border and monitor those that have recently come from the source counties.
    Viruses don't burn themselves out. They may wane but not dealing with them is not the best approach. In fact we are dealing with this unprecedented outbreak because it wan't dealt with adequately the last time there was an outbreak. And furthermore your approach could actually produce a mutation that is airborne.

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    This country has become a joke. The CDC's budget for 2014 was $11,300,000,000!!!

    That's $11.3 billion... and yet an Ebola infected man can fly to the United States by simply lying to airport staff. When do Americans wake up and say that we're not making progress here?

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    Re: U.S. Nurses say they are unprepared to handle Ebola patients.....

    Quote Originally Posted by FaceofBachmann View Post
    Anti-science, xenophobia, scapegoating: conservatives go into that mode so easily.

    This time, however, the stakes are rather high and I expect science, reason and good policies win out, perhaps ultimately leading to the restoration of the funding the GOP stole form the CDC (plus the closing of two CDC research labs), and a reinvigoration of the argument for universal single payer health care.

    And maybe at long last we'll raise taxes on millionaires to pay for this.
    He is a Holocaust denier, it is a waste of time bring any facts to his attention.
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    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    Re: U.S. Nurses say they are unprepared to handle Ebola patients.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Meadowlark View Post
    Dang! Even the thought that they went right back out to do their job and take care of other people within in hours.

    We know how they took extra precaution in cleaning up at the apartment where the guy got sick. Ever use a power washer? Splashes on everything in the general area, anyone could walk in all the water draining away and these guys weren't protected. Yet the White House assured us we had nothing to worry about.



    Hey, private contractors do a great job.

    Get government out of Public Health.
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    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    Re: U.S. Nurses say they are unprepared to handle Ebola patients.....

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Taking a bullet is one thing. Suffering from an illness is another.
    Sure taking a bullet is a piece of cake. LMAO

    I bet you think bullets just go in and stop like in the movies, and don't go in and bounce off bones and rip the crap out of internal organs. And that's just the ones that don't make a bigger exit hole than the entry point.

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    Re: U.S. Nurses say they are unprepared to handle Ebola patients.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Hamster Buddha View Post
    I will say there's one thing that the CDC should of done by this point, and I think with 11 billion dollars they could of done it already, and that is make sure that healthcare professionals ALWAYS ask when a person comes in sick if they've been to Africa. The first hospital dropped the ball on that one. And really, how much money is it to send an email to regional health directors to then pass on to their hospitals to get the message. Throwing more money at the CDC wouldn't of done anything to prevent the current hysteria over Ebola. Again, this is the the 1918 flu, hell this isn't even Swine Flu.
    Yes, but all this takes training and equipment, and updating. It doesn't just happen. As to its budget, the CDC is doing other things than dealing with Ebola, so cutting its budget simply degrades its ability to handle its mandate.

    Seems to me we should increase its budget, not cut it.

    Further while Ebola is unlikely to become a big problem in this country, it will get here (and not just as an isolated case in Texas), and given its high mortality rate, precautions are needed - in advance. Regrettably our system has incentives that make infectious diseases easier to spread, since we have this thing -- based on years of conservative agitprop -- that going to the doctor when you're sick is a bad thing. We have incentivized NOT going to the doctor with copays and deductible. We have limited health infrastructure in poor urban centers.

    All this makes it possible for Ebola to cause more harm here, than in other advanced nations. I would say we're about to have to grow up about our outdated health care systm.

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    Re: U.S. Nurses say they are unprepared to handle Ebola patients.....

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
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    I Wonder if those Ambulance guys worked later and the next day and who they all came into contact with.....huh?
    What do you reckon they don't throw their gloves out, change the bedding, or take any of the universal precautions that any hospital or ambulance does in modern civilized world?
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    Re: U.S. Nurses say they are unprepared to handle Ebola patients.....

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Well then lets do nothing. We sure don't want to LOOK racist in front of the world. Or each other.
    Like I said in another thread, a few million sick and dying on the streets will change our minds.
    But as long as it's the Africans that's fine right? You did say you favored letting it burn out in Africa right?

    Your approach will make problems here more likely. Not less.

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    Re: U.S. Nurses say they are unprepared to handle Ebola patients.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Meadowlark View Post
    Dang! Even the thought that they went right back out to do their job and take care of other people within in hours.

    We know how they took extra precaution in cleaning up at the apartment where the guy got sick. Ever use a power washer? Splashes on everything in the general area, anyone could walk in all the water draining away and these guys weren't protected. Yet the White House assured us we had nothing to worry about.



    Do you have any idea how staggeringly unlikely it is that someone would get infected from that water?
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: U.S. Nurses say they are unprepared to handle Ebola patients.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    And yet, you used exactly the same procedures to handle the live ones.
    But more carefully. :-)

    We had a guy in the unit that was a real **** up. We always said if we were deployed in a war zone we'd have to take him out back and shoot him as he'd get us killed. LOL

    Had miscommunication once between a tech in the cockpit and a crew member loading bdu's (bomb dummy units). The crew member didn't tell the guy in the cockpit he loaded them and the guy in the cockpit did a electrical simulation. Needless to say some bdu's got dropped on the tarmac. There are small charges that look like shotgun shells that jettison the bdu's. Must have sounded like a several shotguns firing at once. I wasn't there at the time but would have liked to have been. The crew member got the blame but I think the tech was partly to blame. The crew member got to do a lot of not so fun stuff for punishment along with daily drug tests. LOL
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