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    Re: Bogus Congressman Said to Get Backstage at Obama Event

    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaO01 View Post
    There is SOME truth to it. That is in reference to FOX. I doubt the ISSA part but FOX would be all over it.
    I think it is ridiculous to say the the SS are acting in some reactionary way to media. The SS are an A-political security force for the POTUS, and regardless of who is in that office they are supposed to be better than that.

    Now, it is no secret that I don't like Obama, or his lying ways, but I sure as heck don't want to see him harmed, that would be horrible for the US.
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    Re: Bogus Congressman Said to Get Backstage at Obama Event

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Damn you should have put a warning on that link! I fully didn't expect to see a picture of Nancy Pelosi not wearing an underwire bra holding hands with Chris Christie.
    Actually Pelosi and Christie could both benefit from an underwire bra.

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    Re: Bogus Congressman Said to Get Backstage at Obama Event

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    I think it is ridiculous to say the the SS are acting in some reactionary way to media. The SS are an A-political security force for the POTUS, and regardless of who is in that office they are supposed to be better than that.

    Now, it is no secret that I don't like Obama, or his lying ways, but I sure as heck don't want to see him harmed, that would be horrible for the US.
    Their actions in the last few years really make you wonder. Either they just don't care if Obama gets hurt or the new breed of secret servicemen can't match those of yesteryear.

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    Re: Bogus Congressman Said to Get Backstage at Obama Event

    Quote Originally Posted by Crosscheck View Post
    Their actions in the last few years really make you wonder. Either they just don't care if Obama gets hurt or the new breed of secret servicemen can't match those of yesteryear.
    Or maybe the Secret Service has always been this way and the only difference is people are whistleblowing.

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    Re: Bogus Congressman Said to Get Backstage at Obama Event

    First of all believe it or not this is not a blame it on Bush post. But I saw an opinion piece that said after Bush moved the USSS from the treasury department to DHS moral has been low. According to the piece the USSS now has to Now compete and scramble for funds with the rest of the agencies and no longer has the pride and distinction it had when it was located in the treasury department.

    No idea if this has any merit. Just stating what I read.

    How many of you know the USSS is still is involved with investigating counterfeit money and cybercrimes? Perhaps if they specialized just in protecting the president they could protect the president better?
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    Re: Bogus Congressman Said to Get Backstage at Obama Event

    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaO01 View Post
    First of all believe it or not this is not a blame it on Bush post. But I saw an opinion piece that said after Bush moved the USSS from the treasury department to DHS moral has been low. According to the piece the USSS now has to Now compete and scramble for funds with the rest of the agencies and no longer has the pride and distinction it had when it was located in the treasury department.

    No idea if this has any merit. Just stating what I read.

    How many of you know the USSS is still is involved with investigating counterfeit money and cybercrimes? Perhaps if they specialized just in protecting the president they could protect the president better?
    Come on...thats just a silly excuse. Regardless of the scope of the SS or where they hang their hat, the organization has 7000 employees, a mission that has been defined since its inception, and has a defined operating budget of 1.5 million. To suggest that somehow its Bush's fault for the organization being under the DHS vs Treasury (or its BUsh's fault because he made them let him take risks and that has screwed up their ability to defend the president-as was suggested on CNN a few days ago) and THATS why a White House security detail allowed a guy to jump the fence, run across the WH lawn area, enter the WH and get all the way to the East End is preposterous. There is no indication there was inadequate staff the staff was poorly trained, the staff had unclear mission goals and directives, or any other excuse. They ****ed up. Plain and simple. The Secret Service has had a pretty decent history of ****ing up. Effective leadership would have solved that problem.

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    Re: Bogus Congressman Said to Get Backstage at Obama Event

    Quote Originally Posted by Crosscheck View Post
    Their actions in the last few years really make you wonder. Either they just don't care if Obama gets hurt or the new breed of secret servicemen can't match those of yesteryear.
    Or, the leadership of the Secret Service is crap.
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    Re: Bogus Congressman Said to Get Backstage at Obama Event

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Or, the leadership of the Secret Service is crap.
    Is it really just the leadership? You may have a crappy boss but you still might do your best at your job. Maybe the whole system needs to be flushed out and started fresh.

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    Re: Bogus Congressman Said to Get Backstage at Obama Event

    Quote Originally Posted by Crosscheck View Post
    Is it really just the leadership? You may have a crappy boss but you still might do your best at your job. Maybe the whole system needs to be flushed out and started fresh.
    It's management's responsibility to see that the standards are enforced.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Bogus Congressman Said to Get Backstage at Obama Event

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Come on...thats just a silly excuse. Regardless of the scope of the SS or where they hang their hat, the organization has 7000 employees, a mission that has been defined since its inception, and has a defined operating budget of 1.5 million. To suggest that somehow its Bush's fault for the organization being under the DHS vs Treasury (or its BUsh's fault because he made them let him take risks and that has screwed up their ability to defend the president-as was suggested on CNN a few days ago) and THATS why a White House security detail allowed a guy to jump the fence, run across the WH lawn area, enter the WH and get all the way to the East End is preposterous. There is no indication there was inadequate staff the staff was poorly trained, the staff had unclear mission goals and directives, or any other excuse. They ****ed up. Plain and simple. The Secret Service has had a pretty decent history of ****ing up. Effective leadership would have solved that problem.
    Never suggested it was Bush's fault. Just wanted to know what your thoughts were if the move had any effect on their effectiveness.

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