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    Re: Jobless Rate in US Falls to 5.9% in September, Payrolls Jump

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post


    This is how liberals today think.


    That would seem to reflect more the attitude of Conservatives as Liberals view them.
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    Re: Jobless Rate in US Falls to 5.9% in September, Payrolls Jump

    Quote Originally Posted by code1211 View Post
    You are citing a demographic of 55 and older.

    The retirement age for most is about 65.

    Does you source have a demographic for 65 and older?
    The retirement age has shifted from 60 to 62 (average).
    It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion.
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    Re: Jobless Rate in US Falls to 5.9% in September, Payrolls Jump

    Quote Originally Posted by imagep View Post
    If your position is that job growth is low due to the federal deficit, then yes, it would help solve the job problem.

    If we increased the taxes of the rich to offset tax cuts for the middle class, then yes again, it may be a deficit trade off but shifting money into the hands of those who have the highest propensity to spend the marginal dollar would increase demand and thus increase business expansion.

    If we increased taxation on the rich to expand infrastructure spending, then yes, more jobs would be created directly due to the infrastructure spending and indirection because businesses need infrastructure to expand.

    If we increased taxation on the rich to provide more economic benefits to everyone, then it would also result in an increase in demand, and thus business expansion.
    Too bad that's not what the money would be used for, but it all sounds good.
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    Re: Jobless Rate in US Falls to 5.9% in September, Payrolls Jump

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Too bad that's not what the money would be used for, but it all sounds good.
    Projections based on an uninformed opinion are... piss poor projections! It's not like i expected you to provide anything of value to begin with .
    It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion.
    "Wealth of Nations," Book V, Chapter II, Part II, Article I, pg.911

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    Re: Jobless Rate in US Falls to 5.9% in September, Payrolls Jump

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Too bad that's not what the money would be used for, but it all sounds good.
    What would the money be used for if not for spending or paying down the deficit? Are you suggesting that it would all just be collected in burlap bags and buried?
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    Re: Jobless Rate in US Falls to 5.9% in September, Payrolls Jump

    Quote Originally Posted by imagep View Post
    What would the money be used for if not for spending or paying down the deficit? Are you suggesting that it would all just be collected in burlap bags and buried?
    Actually I think they used stainless steel boxes now.
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    Re: Jobless Rate in US Falls to 5.9% in September, Payrolls Jump

    Quote Originally Posted by Kushinator View Post
    Projections based on an uninformed opinion are... piss poor projections! It's not like i expected you to provide anything of value to begin with .
    Ah a personal attack, very valuable.
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    Re: Jobless Rate in US Falls to 5.9% in September, Payrolls Jump

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    BTW, did I mention that since Obama took office, by my calculations, 1,001,000 less Americans under 55 are employed...but 5,417,000 more Americans over 55 are employed!?!

    I did?

    Okay.


    BTW, once again, I am neither Dem nor Rep.
    Kind of an anecdote here but I noticed after the economic collapse around 2007... From that point forward fast food employee ages seemed to skyrocket. It was weird. I later read that the average age of ff workers climbed to over 30 but you could just see it happening. It was depressing to see but Tue good thing about it was they were ****ing up less orders than the dont give a crap kids do.

    Now it seems the age is dropping again or replaced by upper aged Mexican nationals who've come up. And the orders are always jacked up again like the good old days.
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    Re: Jobless Rate in US Falls to 5.9% in September, Payrolls Jump

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    Kind of an anecdote here but I noticed after the economic collapse around 2007... From that point forward fast food employee ages seemed to skyrocket. It was weird. I later read that the average age of ff workers climbed to over 30 but you could just see it happening. It was depressing to see but Tue good thing about it was they were ****ing up less orders than the dont give a crap kids do.

    Now it seems the age is dropping again or replaced by upper aged Mexican nationals who've come up. And the orders are always jacked up again like the good old days.
    My kid calls one of our local McDonalds, "MexiDonalds", because it has so many hispanic workers. However it is the best McDonalds (fastest and most accurate) that I have ever seen.
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    Re: Jobless Rate in US Falls to 5.9% in September, Payrolls Jump

    Quote Originally Posted by Kushinator View Post
    The retirement age has shifted from 60 to 62 (average).


    Here's some more data simply on the population past current and projected.:

    Retirement Policy: The U.S. Population is Aging

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