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    Re: Jobless Rate in US Falls to 5.9% in September, Payrolls Jump

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
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    I was definitely mistaken saying it was not....
    You are a fine space alien robot man for admitting that. Don't hear "I was mistaken" very often around here. Kudos.
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    I see a big problem with the idea that whatever the majority wants is OK.

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    Re: Jobless Rate in US Falls to 5.9% in September, Payrolls Jump

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    ...If this is what you see as success, if people dropping out of the workforce and getting on the government dole is such a good thing, hell, everyone should just quit, then we'd have full employment.
    Well, that's one way to lower unemployment.

    But there is something in-between that should be economically maximizing, and politically viable.

    I'd support shifting means tested welfare spending to infrastructure spending. The short term macroeconomic result would be the same as what we have now, but with better social results, and better long term results due to the value of the newly created infrastructure. We'd probably have to phase this spending shift in over a number of years.

    It's usually not those on the moderate left who oppose this idea though, it's almost always those on the right, who will claim that creating infrastructure jobs is still welfare, and that doing so won't help the deficit issue. Sometimes I believe that those on the far right actually desire to see the poor and middle class harmed.

    There used to be a time when conservatives valued public education and infrastructure, but these days it seems more and more like they would prefer an under educated workforce resulting in lower and lower wages, and crumbling public infrastructure. Conservatives no longer seem to value what they used to, and that's why I no longer vote for conservatives.
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    I see a big problem with the idea that whatever the majority wants is OK.

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    Re: Jobless Rate in US Falls to 5.9% in September, Payrolls Jump

    Quote Originally Posted by FaceofBachmann View Post
    Oh God, the Community Reinvestment Act. You're actually dredging that talking point up! Why not blame ACORN while you're at it.

    Can't you at least come up with some sexier, weirder talking points to explain Bush complete and utter economic failure. Can it involve gerbils and black helicopters?
    please quit encouraging him. re-read this threat:
    ... I could write a 2000 page book on this financial collapse.. ...
    the inanity of a single post is tolerable. let's not motivate him to try for 2000
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    Re: Jobless Rate in US Falls to 5.9% in September, Payrolls Jump

    Quote Originally Posted by imagep View Post
    You are a fine space alien robot man for admitting that. Don't hear "I was mistaken" very often around here. Kudos.
    Thanks, I appreciate that.

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    Re: Jobless Rate in US Falls to 5.9% in September, Payrolls Jump

    The CRA was terrible.....

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    Re: Jobless Rate in US Falls to 5.9% in September, Payrolls Jump

    Quote Originally Posted by FaceofBachmann View Post
    Oh God, the Community Reinvestment Act. You're actually dredging that talking point up! Why not blame ACORN while you're at it.

    Can't you at least come up with some sexier, weirder talking points to explain Bush complete and utter economic failure. Can it involve gerbils and black helicopters?


    You haven't ONCE, been able to debunk anyone's claims about the CRA influence on the Subprime mortgage crisis or ACORN for that matter.

    You offer up a opinion mixed with left wing talking points as a response to documented facts and sourced data.

    Its just lazy

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    Re: Jobless Rate in US Falls to 5.9% in September, Payrolls Jump

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    You haven't ONCE, been able to debunk anyone's claims about the CRA influence on the Subprime mortgage crisis or ACORN for that matter.

    You offer up a opinion mixed with left wing talking points as a response to documented facts and sourced data.

    Its just lazy
    what's lazy is failing to read/recall the many, MANY threads wherein the CRA influence on the notso great recession has been debunked. i am attributing your post to a convenient memory lapse
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
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    Re: Jobless Rate in US Falls to 5.9% in September, Payrolls Jump

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    The CRA was terrible.....


    They have no idea what they're taking about.

    Honestly, they dredge up left op eds written by hacks from left wing sites and then claim that the issue is settled and that we've been " debunked ".

    When I challenged him to counter my post on a point by point bases he runs away after parroting the same nonsense he's been posting since he showed up.

    He's a admitted Socialist. You can't set your standards for a intelligent debate very high.

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    Re: Jobless Rate in US Falls to 5.9% in September, Payrolls Jump

    Quote Originally Posted by FaceofBachmann View Post
    Looks like you've left Laffer and just settled for the usual talking points. It wasn't a very effective stunt in any case.
    Someone needs a mirror.
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    Re: Jobless Rate in US Falls to 5.9% in September, Payrolls Jump

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    They have no idea what they're taking about.

    Honestly, they dredge up left op eds written by hacks from left wing sites and then claim that the issue is settled and that we've been " debunked ".

    When I challenged him to counter my post on a point by point bases he runs away after parroting the same nonsense he's been posting since he showed up.

    He's a admitted Socialist. You can't set your standards for a intelligent debate very high.
    No communist can put forth a valid dissent, and most democrats/liberals/progressives just regurgitate what they have read on other sites - reason for that being is that they hate non-progressives and would rather trust the propaganda rather than fiscal progressive or conservative ideas..

    The was I see it is that the progressives are the PC cops and the non progressives (conservatives, real republicans, tea party and libertarians) are the accountants of this nation.

    Hell, look at the typical progressive they have no problem being called a "social justice" warrior - that within itself shows they care more about social issues rather than economic issues or economic solvency.

    Are libertarians or republicans fair? no not really, we rely on self sufficiency not government regulations and/or a nanny state which progressives believe are the solution to all their problems.

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