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    Re: Jobless Rate in US Falls to 5.9% in September, Payrolls Jump

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    Yes, and in cases like that Haley should be held accountable...Driving my truck down 85 south I have to stay in Lane 2 because the right lane just hammers the truck. But, you'll also notice that the geniuses in the State house, don't want that accountability, rather they want to try and get that one cent tax passed for the roads, until they get it and don't spend that on them either...Ugh....It just pisses me off.
    In the same newspaper that I read about the proposed tax increases, was this long article about what the state was going to do with all the surplus revenue that they had. Absolutely disgusting that we have a huge budget surplus, yet we are considering tax increases (especially during a weak economy).
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    Re: Jobless Rate in US Falls to 5.9% in September, Payrolls Jump

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    The Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) is a unit of the United States Department of Labor. The United States Department of Labor (DOL) is a cabinet-level department of the U.S. federal government responsible for occupational safety, wage and hour standards, unemployment insurance benefits, re-employment services, and some economic statistics; many U.S. states also have such departments. The department is headed by the U.S. Secretary of Labor.

    Thomas Perez is the current U.S. Secretary of Labor. He took office after being confirmed by the U.S. Senate on July 18, 2013.

    Perez's nomination was criticized by Senators Chuck Grassley (R-IA) and Pat Roberts (R-KS),[115] as well as the The Wall Street Journal editorial board,[116] for his decision not to intervene in a whistleblower case against Saint Paul, Minnesota in return for the city dropping a case before the Supreme Court (Magner v. Gallagher), which could have undermined the disparate impact theory of discrimination.[117] His nomination was also opposed by Senator Jeff Sessions (R-AL) for his views on immigration and his association with Casa de Maryland, calling the nomination "an unfortunate and needlessly divisive nomination".[118][119]

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    Yeah, nothing possibly divisive to see there.....
    Republicans oppose a democrat nominee Nothing exactly earth shattering here. I'm guessing that some Democrats objected to Bush's nominee for the position during his tenure as well. None of this changes the fact that the Bureau is an independent entity that does not cater to the administration in power at the moment. That's nothing more than a conspiracy born out of partisanship.

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    Re: Jobless Rate in US Falls to 5.9% in September, Payrolls Jump

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    There is one surprise...And that is why not audit the BLS and its parent the Dept. of Labor and structure this wacky system to come up with more precise numbers on this crap...Hey, I got an idea, remove the BLS from the Dept of Labor...
    BLS is actually older than DoL. But in any case the relationship is purely administrative...no one at DoL has anything to do with BLS data. Separate buildings, desperate servers, payroll and HR is the only connection.

    And BLS is continuously trying to improve data quality, though that leads to complaints of "manipulation".
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    Re: Jobless Rate in US Falls to 5.9% in September, Payrolls Jump

    Quote Originally Posted by cholla View Post
    She works for the Dept of Labor. She always asks for the number of employees working in the week that includes the 12th. Normally she asks how many hours they worked and how much they are paid, but not this time since there was no employee.
    She should say Bureau of Labor Statistics. It's a legal thing for confidentiality. And the reference period for the CES is the pay period that contains the 12th, not the week. And by now you should have been given the option of self-reporting. And it's odd that she would tell you what she was putting down. And I was thinking of hours and wages and female employees and the breakdown of production an supervisory.

    Nothing so off for me to say you're not telling the truth, but it's odd.
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    Re: Jobless Rate in US Falls to 5.9% in September, Payrolls Jump

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Personally, while I think that Obama is highlighting only the good news out of this, and that there is plenty more to the story concerning our economy, I do think it is good that it seems to be coming back although anemic as it is...

    Now do I think that it is Obama policies that are causing the slow come back? No. But that is just my uninformed opinion...

    Do I think that Repubs these days would do any better? I don't know, probably not...It's just a big mess, and we can't really trust anything that is being reported anymore...Ain't democratic socialism great?
    I guess we'll see if they take back the Senate. It worked in the 90s when they took it back and slowed spending, reformed welfare, and cut taxes. Even had a Democrat President. BUT, Obama is not Clinton.

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    Re: Jobless Rate in US Falls to 5.9% in September, Payrolls Jump

    yay! it only took Obama 6 and a half years to show very minor progress on turning around the economy. but hey, gay people can get married, so to hell with the unemployed anyway. am i right? let's keep electing democrats so we can make it a DECADE LONG economic malaise. come on! it's fun!

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    Re: Jobless Rate in US Falls to 5.9% in September, Payrolls Jump

    Quote Originally Posted by a351 View Post
    Republicans oppose a democrat nominee Nothing exactly earth shattering here. I'm guessing that some Democrats objected to Bush's nominee for the position during his tenure as well. None of this changes the fact that the Bureau is an independent entity that does not cater to the administration in power at the moment. That's nothing more than a conspiracy born out of partisanship.
    Quote Originally Posted by pinqy
    BLS is actually older than DoL. But in any case the relationship is purely administrative...no one at DoL has anything to do with BLS data. Separate buildings, desperate servers, payroll and HR is the only connection.

    And BLS is continuously trying to improve data quality, though that leads to complaints of "manipulation".
    So you both say...The fact that the BLS is now under the control of the DoL, and that is a political appointee leaves pause in the way they report numbers...Remember in the 2012 election when it was being said by both demo, and conservative pundits that the UE rate just had to drop below 8% for Obama to overcome the stat for election? Then magically right before the election, presto the number dropped below 8%.... Then after the election it was adjusted back to 8%.

    It's crap like that which makes people believe that the books are cooked....
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    Re: Jobless Rate in US Falls to 5.9% in September, Payrolls Jump

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Yeah ok...I am only going by what I see around me these days...Whenever these stats get reported, the argument is predictable...the Obamabots will say he's the greatest since sliced bread, and it was all Bush's fault in the first place, and the conservatives will say that Obama is hiding, and twisting numbers to lie to the public, then you'll have about a hundred pages of stat after stat being posted until my eyes are bleeding and I just need a drink....When I see someone in a position of leadership start pushing lower taxes, and see real welfare reform so that half the damn country isn't collecting it in one form or another, then I'll say it's getting better. Til then this is election year bull ****.
    Personally, I don't believe anything that comes out of either camp (dem or rep) unless it is factually proven. Why any adult who would do otherwise is beyond me.

    All I pay attention to (usually) are facts and stats.

    Political cat fighting and endless promises mean little to me.

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    Re: Jobless Rate in US Falls to 5.9% in September, Payrolls Jump

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    Personally, I don't believe anything that comes out of either camp (dem or rep) unless it is factually proven. Why any adult who would do otherwise is beyond me.

    All I pay attention to (usually) are facts and stats.

    Political cat fighting and endless promises mean little to me.
    I'm getting there....Working on my cynicism...
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    Re: Jobless Rate in US Falls to 5.9% in September, Payrolls Jump

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    So, you have no proof that I knowingly made false statements.
    I've already given you the proof multiple times. I'm not surprised you refuse to acknowledge it.

    Noted.

    And I will agree to your request, you are now on my ignore list.

    We are done here.


    Good day.
    And there's your standard response when you've been shown to be completely wrong and your posts shown to be absurd, the DA60 "noted and good day". Just like I said a couple of posts ago. Thank you for being consistent.

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