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    Re: Jobless Rate in US Falls to 5.9% in September, Payrolls Jump

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    I'm getting it from your posts. You claimed there were more people born in 1946 than at any other time. That would make those people 68 today. Their brothers and sisters have barely hit 65, and many have not hit 60 yet.

    Add in the census data that shows more 65+ year old people are continuing to work than before, and the suggestion that anyone 60 or over is retiring is not supported by the available data. Perhaps I'm wrong in my interpretation, but it seems your confusing retired, with retirement age.
    let's call it retirement eligible
    for social security purposes, i became retirement eligible (62) in august. (for purposes of full disclosure, i have been retired from my employer for 11 plus years)
    and many, like me, chose to defer immediate social security retirement upon eligibility because it will enhance our earnings later. we put pencil to paper and realized it is smarter financially - long term - to defer retirement
    however, at the height of the notso great recession, a number of my friends and acquaintances, having lost their jobs, or working reduced hours, and having few prospects at finding replacement employment equivalent to that they were forced to relinquish, chose to begin receiving social security benefits as soon as they became eligible. they preferred to defer that choice to realize greater total benefits. but the economy did not cooperate. they accepted the lesser, but immediate, benefit only because they needed the income. then
    as the economy has begun improving, that more retirement eligibles are deferring to a later date to commence receiving their benefits is not surprising. an anecdotal observation to be certain, but one which appears to square with the data
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    Re: Jobless Rate in US Falls to 5.9% in September, Payrolls Jump

    Quote Originally Posted by imagep View Post
    Who told you that. Is this documented?

    And you do realize that people who are self employed are ALL counted as having jobs don't you?

    Anyhow, they don't call employers, they call individuals. I highly suspect you just made up that story.
    i guarantee it was fabrication. nothing about it is consistent with how that data is actually collected
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    Re: Jobless Rate in US Falls to 5.9% in September, Payrolls Jump

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Personally, while I think that Obama is highlighting only the good news out of this,...
    Did Obama make a public statement on the unemployment figures released today? I must have missed that.

    You do realize that Obama doesn't personally write the reports don't you?
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    I see a big problem with the idea that whatever the majority wants is OK.

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    Re: Jobless Rate in US Falls to 5.9% in September, Payrolls Jump

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    First he cites BLS data...then wonders if BLS data is cooked.
    A perfect example of the rightwing mind's complete disregard for cognitive dissonance.

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    Re: Jobless Rate in US Falls to 5.9% in September, Payrolls Jump

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    It doesn't matter what this "report" says because real people are really feeling what Obama's real economic policy is really about.
    Because facts don't matter to you.

    In fact, the August jobs report was revised upweard,
    showing the President actually should be blamed for hurting his party low-balling the jobs report .
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    Re: Jobless Rate in US Falls to 5.9% in September, Payrolls Jump

    Quote Originally Posted by imagep View Post
    The vast majority of them are already working, but at bargain prices for the rest of us.

    Personally, I'd prefer to eliminate food stamps and all other forms of means tested welfare, but if we did that we would need to put in place some mechanism which would create higher wages (ie a higher minimum wage, or more government spending/jobs).
    think of all the money you would cost the walton heirs if you quit subsidizing their workforce
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
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    Re: Jobless Rate in US Falls to 5.9% in September, Payrolls Jump

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    I'm getting it from your posts. You claimed there were more people born in 1946 than at any other time.
    No I didn't. Look back on my actual worlds.

    Add in the census data that shows more 65+ year old people are continuing to work than before, and the suggestion that anyone 60 or over is retiring is not supported by the available data. Perhaps I'm wrong in my interpretation, but it seems your confusing retired, with retirement age.
    I never made that claim. I said that we have a higher percentage of people who are retired than ever before. I never claimed that everyone age 60+ is retired, or that their younger siblings are all retired.
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    I see a big problem with the idea that whatever the majority wants is OK.

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    Re: Jobless Rate in US Falls to 5.9% in September, Payrolls Jump

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    You are asking another poster to prove YOUR negative comment entirely made up by you and which is unprovable.

    This is just another wing of the false-equivalency party known as the GOP--though you continue to deny being a GOP though you post like one.

    while I am a proud, positive Democrat and don't run from my brand .
    Okaaaaaaaay...so you people honestly do not know the difference between someone saying they believe something and they know something?



    I will try and remember that.


    Btw, I am neither dem nor rep.


    Good day.
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    Re: Jobless Rate in US Falls to 5.9% in September, Payrolls Jump

    Quote Originally Posted by a351 View Post
    The same suspects every month, crying conspiracy and clutching to anything that resembles negative news. What a sorry bunch.
    An average of 213,000 jobs a month for the past year--and 55 straight months of private sectore job growth.
    We can only imagine the further improvement if GOPs were just inert, instead of being an anchor attached to the Obama train holding us back .
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    Re: Jobless Rate in US Falls to 5.9% in September, Payrolls Jump

    Yet you don't speak to the fact you have invented a negative born out of false equivalency that can't be proven.
    See you next month with another great jobs report you'll say is made up just in time for an election.
    Even though you are not a GOP .


    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    Okaaaaaaaay.

    And I am neither dem nor rep.


    Good day.
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