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    Re: Panetta unloads on White House for pulling US forces out of Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Meadowlark View Post
    Megyn did a great interview and cover all the bases on this one, including Obama own words was priceless!
    In fact the idea was not to tell the truth, it was to deflect sufficiently enough so that their moony supporters may still cling to some doubt as to what happened.

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    Re: Panetta unloads on White House for pulling US forces out of Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    The SOFA that Bush signed said forces would withdraw from all Iraqi cities in 2009 and completely by 2011.
    They make changes to SOFA all the time.
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    Re: Panetta unloads on White House for pulling US forces out of Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    In fact the idea was not to tell the truth, it was to deflect sufficiently enough so that their moony supporters may still cling to some doubt as to what happened.
    Agree, staff must stick to the same script -

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    Re: Panetta unloads on White House for pulling US forces out of Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    This is not about Maliki or any one man. When we personalize these things it makes it appear smaller than it really is. These are thousands of people being murdered because they are not Muslims or not Muslim enough. There is always a choice we can make which is a)to help, b) ignore the situation, or c) support whats going on. There is no real difference between b) and c).

    We can ignore the direction the world is taking and look the other way but, it seems to me, that being human should be more than that.
    HOLY COW!!! what a giant pile of steaming deflecting s**t! I knew you wouldn't respond to the facts but I've really never seen such a giant pile of steaming deflecting s**t. Dude, you were calling people Nazis because you had some serious delusions not supporting maliki means supporting genocide. Seriously! Nazis! I think you fell and hit your head when you climbing down from your high horse.

    Now, by your standards Reagan is a Nazi. seriously. Nazi.

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    There were no weapons of mass destruction.

    Remember ? Bush " lied "
    Fenton, is that you? are you really trying to deflect from Reagan's "Nazi tendencies" by trying to pretend that Saddam's chemical weapons in 1988 justified Bush's lies in 2002? yep, that's Fenton alright.
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    Re: Panetta unloads on White House for pulling US forces out of Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    I'll take Panetta's word.
    feel free to take Panetta's word. He thinks President Obama should have tried harder. Yea, tried harder is what he said. I guess maliki thought he could push President Obama around like he did with Bush. Just say President Obama should have caved to Malki's demand about no immunity for the troops and we can continue the conversation.

    But you didn't answer the question I posed about your claim. Here it is again

    Jack how did Bush caving to every Iraqi demand give President Obama “a free hand”?
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    Re: Panetta unloads on White House for pulling US forces out of Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Vern View Post
    feel free to take Panetta's word. He thinks President Obama should have tried harder. Yea, tried harder is what he said. I guess maliki thought he could push President Obama around like he did with Bush. Just say President Obama should have caved to Malki's demand about no immunity for the troops and we can continue the conversation.

    But you didn't answer the question I posed about your claim. Here it is again

    Jack how did Bush caving to every Iraqi demand give President Obama “a free hand”?
    GWB got what he wanted and what the country needed. BHO prioritized his political agenda above our national interest, and Iraqi stability.
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    Re: Panetta unloads on White House for pulling US forces out of Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    GWB got what he wanted and what the country needed. BHO prioritized his political agenda above our national interest, and Iraqi stability.
    I'm still not seeing the "free hand" you mentioned. Sorry, I wont take you word.
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    Re: Panetta unloads on White House for pulling US forces out of Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Vern View Post
    I'm still not seeing the "free hand" you mentioned. Sorry, I wont take you word.
    I'm indifferent to what you believe or don't believe. The GWB administration made the agreement valid until 2011 so GWB's successor could design his own plan.
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    Re: Panetta unloads on White House for pulling US forces out of Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    That was to give his successor a free hand to negotiate his own agreement. In 2008 no responsible official imagined there would be a total US withdrawal.
    Right, and for you, I'm certain, "responsible officials" only come from the GOP.
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    Re: Panetta unloads on White House for pulling US forces out of Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    That Valerie Jarrett, Susan Rice and Samantha Powers have been dictating what America's national defense/security policies will be.

    These three individuals are Obama's inner circle and have more say so than all of the generals and admirals with in all four branches of the military combined.
    That could be part of the problem.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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