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    Re: Panetta unloads on White House for pulling US forces out of Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    Kind of ruins the myth that Obama couldn't convince the Iraqi government to leave some residual troops in place to guide the Iraqi's
    The thing so frustrating about this idiotic Obama narrative is that sources like the NYT posted essentially what Panetta said in their own postmortems in 2012... but back then they didn't know that they would need to kill that story.

    Today we have people clearly displaying their ignorant sycophancy in buying the new White House narrative without question.

    Panetta is correct, and his version of the story coincides with the news at the time.
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    Re: Panetta unloads on White House for pulling US forces out of Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    So you would prefer what's going on there now?

    The thing is there were not 150,000 troops in Iraq when the present troubles began. There were none. The CIA Director at the time, Robert Gates, expected something over 70,000 to remain in order to maintain stability.
    The iraqi's should handle their own problems.

    These lazy ****ers can't get Their **** together after 10 years of US coddling. Why should our citizens die for people who won't fight for themselves?

    If it's that big of a deal then you go fight. Send your sons and daughters to fight.

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    Re: Panetta unloads on White House for pulling US forces out of Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by reinoe View Post
    The iraqi's should handle their own problems.

    These lazy ****ers can't get Their **** together after 10 years of US coddling. Why should our citizens die for people who won't fight for themselves?

    If it's that big of a deal then you go fight. Send your sons and daughters to fight.
    It's not too often we see people actually supporting genocide and it's quite an experience. It demonstrates again that Nazism can occur among any people, no matter how well educated or sophisticated they presume themselves to be.

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    Re: Panetta unloads on White House for pulling US forces out of Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    It's not too often we see people actually supporting genocide and it's quite an experience. It demonstrates again that Nazism can occur among any people, no matter how well educated or sophisticated they presume themselves to be.
    Supporting Maliki was supporting genocide. Isn't that what you wanted Obama to do? Keep that Iranian operative in power? That's exactly what our troops were doing before they left. Are you calling American troops Nazi's?

    Sources of the International Court of Justice, that there are three lawsuits Maliki condemns genocide, crimes against humanity, targeting civilians in Iraq, being responsible for all the top positions of the armed forces in the country.

    Iraqi lawyers said: “The three cases are now in the Court of Justice against Maliki involving crimes against humanity, genocide in addition to the claims brought against him in front of the Iraqi judiciary


    Iraqi Blowback: Three lawsuits Against Ex P.M. al-Maliki In The International Court Of Justice. | Political Vel Craft
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    Re: Panetta unloads on White House for pulling US forces out of Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    It's not too often we see people actually supporting genocide and it's quite an experience. It demonstrates again that Nazism can occur among any people, no matter how well educated or sophisticated they presume themselves to be.
    Grant, that was so well put. Sadly people supporting genocide happens more often than you think

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    The United States almost certainly knew from its own satellite imagery that Saddam was using chemical weapons against Iranian troops. When Saddam bombed Kurdish rebels and civilians with a lethal cocktail of mustard gas, sarin, tabun and VX in 1988, the Reagan administration first blamed Iran, before acknowledging, under pressure from congressional Democrats, that the culprits were Saddam's own forces
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    http://www.globalpolicy.org/componen...ral/34978.html

    and grant, gassing the kurds was real genocide so that’s actual support for real genocide. I’m not really seeing "people supporting genocide" because we don’t really like the idea of propping up maliki in iraq.
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    Re: Panetta unloads on White House for pulling US forces out of Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    The thing so frustrating about this idiotic Obama narrative is that sources like the NYT posted essentially what Panetta said in their own postmortems in 2012... but back then they didn't know that they would need to kill that story.

    Today we have people clearly displaying their ignorant sycophancy in buying the new White House narrative without question.

    Panetta is correct, and his version of the story coincides with the news at the time.


    It also coincides with other reports, that Obama missed many of the briefings and wasn't listening when he did.

    It's time to rename the White House to the Adjustment Bureau as every policy decision has to be amended after the fact, including Obamacare and the narrative is always the same, one version or another of "not our fault" and "it's working" even when it clearly isn't.

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    Re: Panetta unloads on White House for pulling US forces out of Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by reinoe View Post
    The iraqi's should handle their own problems.

    These lazy ****ers can't get Their **** together after 10 years of US coddling. Why should our citizens die for people who won't fight for themselves?

    If it's that big of a deal then you go fight. Send your sons and daughters to fight.
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    Re: Panetta unloads on White House for pulling US forces out of Iraq

    The White House has sent out Jen Psaki to put a positive spin on Leon Panetta words,
    however she is failed miserably in this interview.


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    Re: Panetta unloads on White House for pulling US forces out of Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Meadowlark View Post
    The White House has sent out Jen Psaki to put a positive spin on Leon Panetta words,
    however she is failed miserably in this interview.

    Whoa...

    Miss flight attendant smile is owned! Even with video tape showing Obama himself took ownership of the fact no troops were left behind the lying bimbo continues with "that is not consistent......yadda, yadda, yadda..

    Now, two years later NOW its an issue of the troops not having support....right even though Obama never mentioned that in the debate.....considering how much he skated in those debates, he most certainly would had mentioned it and said he did not want to expose his troops. This guy has never worried about who he blames.

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    Re: Panetta unloads on White House for pulling US forces out of Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Vern View Post
    Grant, that was so well put. Sadly people supporting genocide happens more often than you think

    "
    The United States almost certainly knew from its own satellite imagery that Saddam was using chemical weapons against Iranian troops. When Saddam bombed Kurdish rebels and civilians with a lethal cocktail of mustard gas, sarin, tabun and VX in 1988, the Reagan administration first blamed Iran, before acknowledging, under pressure from congressional Democrats, that the culprits were Saddam's own forces
    "
    http://www.globalpolicy.org/componen...ral/34978.html

    and grant, gassing the kurds was real genocide so that’s actual support for real genocide. I’m not really seeing "people supporting genocide" because we don’t really like the idea of propping up maliki in iraq.
    There were no weapons of mass destruction.

    Remember ? Bush " lied "

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