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    Re: Panetta unloads on White House for pulling US forces out of Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    Make sure you buy that book of his or you will miss the whole point of this.
    That Valerie Jarrett, Susan Rice and Samantha Powers have been dictating what America's national defense/security policies will be.

    These three individuals are Obama's inner circle and have more say so than all of the generals and admirals with in all four branches of the military combined.

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    Re: Panetta unloads on White House for pulling US forces out of Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    I always thought he was a pretty square shooter. Its great to see and Obama surrogate tell the truth for once.

    Panetta unloads on White House for pulling US forces out of Iraq | Fox News

    October 2 2014

    Former Defense Secretary Leon Panetta is lashing out at President Obama’s inner circle for failing to secure a 2011 deal to leave U.S. troops in Iraq, effectively accusing the White House of sabotaging the talks – in turn, opening the door for the region to become a haven for the Islamic State.
    Panetta, who served as CIA director and then Defense secretary during those negotiations, aired his complaints in his forthcoming memoir, “Worthy Fights.” Excerpts on the Baghdad talks were published by Time.
    We had over 150K troops in Iraq for a decade and it still didnt want to turn out the way we wanted it. Whats does he want us to do? Stay in Iraq forever and colonize it?

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    Re: Panetta unloads on White House for pulling US forces out of Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Particularly the bolded. Sure you did. Anything, even a monkey critical of Obama would be on your friends list.
    He was right to be critical.

    What Obama did was not only extremely foolish but highly irresponsible.

    Its a great example of what happens when Politicians and especially Presidents weigh every decision according to how it will affect them Politically.

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    Re: Panetta unloads on White House for pulling US forces out of Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by PoS View Post
    We had over 150K troops in Iraq for a decade and it still didnt want to turn out the way we wanted it. Whats does he want us to do? Stay in Iraq forever and colonize it?


    No one has suggested Colonization, and no one ever suggested that we leave a massive troop presence there indefinitely.

    We're just suggesting that he make Foreign Policy decisions not predicated on how they would affect him Politically.

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    Re: Panetta unloads on White House for pulling US forces out of Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Napoleon View Post
    I read the OP and I think Panetta lost his mind. Its like I said, Maliki was presented with the terms and he admits to having rejected them. If a foreign nation wants the privilege of an American defense force then it must agree to our terms. There is no negotiating and Obama was clear on that from the beginning. Either an extension of our presence would come with full immunity for our troops or we would adhere to the withdraw date of the SOA that had already been agreed to.
    Can you imagine if President Obama agreed with iraq's demand concern? HOLY GEEBUS. Fox would have started a new channel dedicated to President Obama "leaving troops in harm's way with no immunity" They would have started salivating at the thought of first trial of a GI.

    Bush caved to every Iraq demand when he signed the SOFA. whining that President Obama should have tried harder to get a new SOFA is just that: whining.
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    Re: Panetta unloads on White House for pulling US forces out of Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    That was to give his successor a free hand to negotiate his own agreement. In 2008 no responsible official imagined there would be a total US withdrawal.

    What?!? Jack how did Bush caving to every Iraqi demand give President Obama “a free hand”. A free hand would have been to extend the existing agreement for a year and not lock in the date for withdrawl from the cities and the date for withdrawl from the country. A free hand wouldn’t have required Iraqi approval for every action even a supply convoy. You should read what Bush agreed to sometime.


    On the occasions that Marine bases in Anbar take rocket attacks, the first reaction is to call Iraqi Police. The Status of Forces Agreement has the Marines’ hands tied.
    At the security meeting this week, Marine officers reminded their Iraqi counterparts that US forces were available to help with intelligence and surveillance, biometrics to identify suspects, and defusing explosives.
    The security agreement, which requires the Marines to give the Iraqis 72 hours notice to move outside their base and then only with Iraqi escorts, has left part of the battalion with so little to do that more than 500 Marines are being sent home early.
    The Captain's Journal » Iraq SOFA


    Its no shock to me that the terms of Bush’s SOFA has been underreported
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    Re: Panetta unloads on White House for pulling US forces out of Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    You speak of "Iraqis" as though they were all of one mind, that there was no disagreement, no fears, no Islamists, and so on. Why not discuss a topic you know something about instead making such assertive errors?
    I can 't believe that you couldn't understand that when I said Iraqi's I meant their President and Parliament. You know, the guys that hold the power. Many of them wanted us out in 2008 and told the U.N. they did not want the "U.N.mandate" renewed. Bush had to scramble and grovel to get the SOFA in 2008 and the 2011 total withdrawal timetable was not his idea either. Bush caved to the Iraqi's out of desperation.

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    Re: Panetta unloads on White House for pulling US forces out of Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by PoS View Post
    We had over 150K troops in Iraq for a decade and it still didnt want to turn out the way we wanted it. Whats does he want us to do? Stay in Iraq forever and colonize it?
    So you would prefer what's going on there now?

    The thing is there were not 150,000 troops in Iraq when the present troubles began. There were none. The CIA Director at the time, Robert Gates, expected something over 70,000 to remain in order to maintain stability.

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    Re: Panetta unloads on White House for pulling US forces out of Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    I can 't believe that you couldn't understand that when I said Iraqi's I meant their President and Parliament. You know, the guys that hold the power. Many of them wanted us out in 2008 and told the U.N. they did not want the "U.N.mandate" renewed. Bush had to scramble and grovel to get the SOFA in 2008 and the 2011 total withdrawal timetable was not his idea either. Bush caved to the Iraqi's out of desperation.
    As with governments everywhere some did and some didn't and you missed that altogether.

    Yes, Bush and Rice naturally had difficulty with the first SOFA agreement ever negotiated in Iraq or the Middle East. That should be readily understood by everyone. In fact it was a job well done.

    The rest of your post is just too stupid to deserve comment.

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    Re: Panetta unloads on White House for pulling US forces out of Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    I always thought he was a pretty square shooter. Its great to see and Obama surrogate tell the truth for once.

    Panetta unloads on White House for pulling US forces out of Iraq | Fox News

    October 2 2014

    Former Defense Secretary Leon Panetta is lashing out at President Obama’s inner circle for failing to secure a 2011 deal to leave U.S. troops in Iraq, effectively accusing the White House of sabotaging the talks – in turn, opening the door for the region to become a haven for the Islamic State.
    Panetta, who served as CIA director and then Defense secretary during those negotiations, aired his complaints in his forthcoming memoir, “Worthy Fights.” Excerpts on the Baghdad talks were published by Time.
    One word. Ouch.

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