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    Re: Panetta unloads on White House for pulling US forces out of Iraq

    I wonder if any of these types of books actually make money for the publisher.

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    Re: Panetta unloads on White House for pulling US forces out of Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    What "facts"??? These are allegations and opinions, written in memoir fashion.
    All of a sudden Panetta has credibility? Hilarious. An Obama hit piece from Fake News? What's next? The sun setting in the west?
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    Re: Panetta unloads on White House for pulling US forces out of Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    You are going way off topic here but that clip certainly doesn't give you the full picture of what was going on in Chile at the time. This is a completely one-sided sound bite.

    If you talk to Chilean people who were alive at the time they will tell you that Allende, with the help of Fidel Castro, was trying to create a Communist state in Chile. Pinochet prevented a civil war and helped create a prosperous, modern and democratic Chile, with the best economy in Latin America.

    Also, to blame the USA first for the troubles in the world is a lazy and tiresome bit of anti Americanism that would be better left to the Cold War propagandists. The fact is that the US has always been an excellent neighbor to Canada, as Canada has been to them, and this silliness is best left to the politically naive who feel a paragraph or two from Wiki is a substitute for actual knowledge.


    Link?

    I am off topic because you continue to pursue it. Since you feel that I am off topic, cannot refute what has been posted, I have no intention of responding further.
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    Re: Panetta unloads on White House for pulling US forces out of Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Anna Noblesse View Post
    Doing something unsavory because others before have done it doesn't make it less unsavory. He should have waited until president Obama was out of office. It's going to be tough for future presidents to feel they can speak freely to their advisors, staff members and whomever when they have to worry about a book detailing their every thought and comment coming out while they're still president.
    I'm glad he wrote the book and I'm glad he's telling people how president Obama goes about making and not making decisions. I just think he should have waited.

    And thanks for the welcome.
    Actually people have been writing books about presidents for as long as I can remember...I think it depends on the writers creditability and reputation and as far as Panetta goes he is respected on both sides of the aisle as and honest man and there are few of them in Washington in my opinion.

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    Re: Panetta unloads on White House for pulling US forces out of Iraq

    Liberals spinning in circles. Lol

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    Re: Panetta unloads on White House for pulling US forces out of Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    Link? I am off topic because you continue to pursue it. Since you feel that I am off topic, cannot refute what has been posted, I have no intention of responding further.
    You needed a link to show that Chile had the strongest economy in Latin America or the Ayatollah Khomeini was bad for Iran? I assumed that was basic knowledge.

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    Re: Panetta unloads on White House for pulling US forces out of Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    All of a sudden Panetta has credibility? Hilarious. An Obama hit piece from Fake News? What's next? The sun setting in the west?

    No its a excerpt from his book.

    And why wouldn't Panetta have credibility ?

    Its not like he was the one who promised everyone in America that if you like your Dr you can keep your Dr.

    No, I think Americans are pretty sure who has the credibility problem and its not Panetta.

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    Re: Panetta unloads on White House for pulling US forces out of Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    I'm not as desperate to make the comparison as you are to deny it.
    Gowins law is pretty much the epitome of "desperate to compare" something.
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    Re: Panetta unloads on White House for pulling US forces out of Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    As usual attack the OP. The facts speak for themselves.
    No they really don't. You merely paint them to favor your opinion.

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    Re: Panetta unloads on White House for pulling US forces out of Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    Oh, well there was that 7 minute tape of a senior state department official talking about further aid to the rebels, and there have been documented press reports identifying individuals.

    Without that, based simply on the history of the US, the bald faced incompetence of Barrack Obama, it is almost a given. Based these facts, the record of accuracy, I believe them, not someone who has a record of posting blatant bull****. I notice you did not address the main issue, that the US has never been successful at regime change; it's record is steeped in blood from Pinochet, various puppets in Vietnam, the Shah of Iran and on and on.
    The State Dept. officers were discussing humanitarian aid to victims of violence. There was no US hand promoting regime change in Ukraine. I have no idea what you mean by "documented press reports identifying individuals."

    As for the "main issue" I'm certain US actions over the years have caused casualties. Nonetheless, the coup in Chile was not "US backed" and Vietnam was a war. Recent research has shown that the Shah would have come to power with or without any US assistance.
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