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    Re: Panetta unloads on White House for pulling US forces out of Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    He is a Democrat first and always. Of course he is going to say that!!

    You were referring to Hillary and now come up with a silly 60 minutes interview. Why not just stop.
    The same criticism can be made of all politicians, republican and democrat alike. There is no source of Hillary criticizing the Iraq war, I was quoting president Clinton and provided a link as such. If you don't like that, you know what to do.
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    Re: Panetta unloads on White House for pulling US forces out of Iraq

    I wonder what Obama has in store in terms of payback for Panetta ?

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    Re: Panetta unloads on White House for pulling US forces out of Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    I wonder what Obama has in store in terms of payback for Panetta ?
    Obama and Panetta are all good. This is classic politics, Obama's lame duck, he can't be hurt, Hillary needs help distancing herself from Obama like the 2008 GOP. Candidates had to distance themselves from Bush. It's all bull hockey dude.
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    Re: Panetta unloads on White House for pulling US forces out of Iraq

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    BAGHDAD, Iraq -- Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki said Thursday he believed Iraqi forces would be ready by June 2007 to take full control of security in Iraq, an issue on which he pressed President Bush during their meeting in Amman, Jordan.

    In making the argument that his military and police could handle security in the country, al-Maliki has routinely said the force could do the job within six months.

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    Re: Panetta unloads on White House for pulling US forces out of Iraq

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    How's that? AQI was formed by al Zarqawi in Iraq in 2004!
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    Re: Panetta unloads on White House for pulling US forces out of Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Really! He never bombed Baghdad? At any rate, he thinks the premature invasion was a mistake and that the weapons inspectors should have been allowed to finish their job, and being there were no WMD's, they would have concluded such and the impetus for war would have been non existent.
    President Clinton's views on the Iraq invasion are no more important to this discussion than those of any randomly selected DP poster.
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    Re: Panetta unloads on White House for pulling US forces out of Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Really! He never bombed Baghdad? At any rate, he thinks the premature invasion was a mistake and that the weapons inspectors should have been allowed to finish their job, and being there were no WMD's, they would have concluded such and the impetus for war would have been non existent.
    But WMD's were found but the left had already politicized the war in Iraq and what WMD's that were found, they said they don't count.

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    Re: Panetta unloads on White House for pulling US forces out of Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Obama and Panetta are all good. This is classic politics, Obama's lame duck, he can't be hurt, Hillary needs help distancing herself from Obama like the 2008 GOP. Candidates had to distance themselves from Bush. It's all bull hockey dude.

    Obama DID say we were voting for or against his Policies.

    Yea I know, probably not a good thing to say.

    Hillary ? She had enough of Obama bad mojo rubbed off on her to make her Presidential run in 2016 a waste of time.

    Obama made a critical foreign policy decision based on Political reasons alone. Thanks to Panneta we now know that.

    Even after being warned.

    Instead of doing something Presidential, like basing his decision on the welfare and safety of the Iraq and American people, he saw a chance to earn a little Political capital by perpetuating one of his election narratives.

    He played politics with one of the most unstable regions in the world.

    LOL ! Who the hell does stuff like that ?

    Hillary went right along with him when he did the same thing in Benghazi.


    Perpetuating some manufactured narrative of a American embassy in Lybia was far more important than the safety and security of the people stationed there.

    He needed a Foreign Policy talking point for the 2012 elections.

    I think most voters will remember Hillarys lies and her complicity in that cluster in 2016

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    Re: Panetta unloads on White House for pulling US forces out of Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    The same criticism can be made of all politicians, republican and democrat alike. There is no source of Hillary criticizing the Iraq war, I was quoting president Clinton and provided a link as such. If you don't like that, you know what to do.
    He was merely before it before he was against it - a fine and longstanding Democrat tradition

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    Re: Panetta unloads on White House for pulling US forces out of Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    He was merely before it before he was against it - a fine and longstanding Democrat tradition
    No wonder he chose Kerry to be SecState!
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