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    Re: Panetta unloads on White House for pulling US forces out of Iraq

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    Re: Panetta unloads on White House for pulling US forces out of Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Any similarity with their attitudes towards Jews? Censorship? A Master Religion?
    Under Bathists... such oppression was far less. Christians existed in peace in Northern parts of Iraq. Jews... don't know. doesn't matter in context of Nazi's putting Jews on trains and then in ovens and gas chambers compared to that not happening in Iraq. Try as desperate as you might, there is no reasonable comparison.
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    Re: Panetta unloads on White House for pulling US forces out of Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    Sending American troops into Afghanistan with politically correct rules of engagement that favor the enemy doesn't gain the respect of the troops.
    If the troops can't fight a war without torture, rape, murder, indiscriminate killing, and desecration of the dead then perhaps it should operate without immunity.

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    Re: Panetta unloads on White House for pulling US forces out of Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Napoleon View Post
    If the troops can't fight a war without torture, rape, murder, indiscriminate killing, and desecration of the dead then perhaps it should operate without immunity.
    Telling our troops they can't shoot at the enemy until they are already being shot at is PC ROE that favor the enemy.

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    Re: Panetta unloads on White House for pulling US forces out of Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    Telling our troops they can't shoot at the enemy until they are already being shot at is PC ROE that favor the enemy.
    As opposed to what? Shooting random people and hoping at least one of them actually is the enemy?

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    Re: Panetta unloads on White House for pulling US forces out of Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Napoleon View Post
    As opposed to what? Shooting random people and hoping at least one of them actually is the enemy?
    During WW ll the entire Pacific theatre and European theatre were one big free fire zone. That's how you win battles that leads to winning wars.

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    Re: Panetta unloads on White House for pulling US forces out of Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    During WW ll the entire Pacific theatre and European theatre were one big free fire zone. That's how you win battles that leads to winning wars.
    Fortunately we've come a long way both technologically and morally from firebombing entire cities to neutralize a single target. Thats how war criminals behave and only incompetents would believe such a strategy is needed today.
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    Re: Panetta unloads on White House for pulling US forces out of Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Napoleon View Post
    If the troops can't fight a war without torture, rape, murder, indiscriminate killing, and desecration of the dead then perhaps it should operate without immunity.
    Just for your information, war is the organized destruction of property and murder of people. Cant really have a war without those two prerequisites. Breaking other peoples **** and murdering people aint exactly honorable, I don't think dead people are really going to care about their corpses. If they somehow do care, then they probably envy those that get raped and tortured cause at least they are still breathing. Wars are very non prejudicial activities. They are the essence of nondiscrimination, at its finest, everyone gets to share in the fun. Immunity is something that host countries give when the actually want their guests to do something, otherwise nobody is gona do jack or ****.

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    Re: Panetta unloads on White House for pulling US forces out of Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Napoleon View Post
    As opposed to what? Shooting random people and hoping at least one of them actually is the enemy?
    Actually the way it works is this way. You kill and maim as many people in their territory as you can regardless of their supposed sympathies. They are like potato chips you cant kill just one. You wipe the whole bag out.
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    Re: Panetta unloads on White House for pulling US forces out of Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    I always thought he was a pretty square shooter. Its great to see and Obama surrogate tell the truth for once.

    Panetta unloads on White House for pulling US forces out of Iraq | Fox News

    October 2 2014

    Former Defense Secretary Leon Panetta is lashing out at President Obama’s inner circle for failing to secure a 2011 deal to leave U.S. troops in Iraq, effectively accusing the White House of sabotaging the talks – in turn, opening the door for the region to become a haven for the Islamic State.
    Panetta, who served as CIA director and then Defense secretary during those negotiations, aired his complaints in his forthcoming memoir, “Worthy Fights.” Excerpts on the Baghdad talks were published by Time.
    I'm sure you put in on your bookshelf right next to Richard Clarke's fine works...

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