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    Re: Panetta unloads on White House for pulling US forces out of Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    LOL... take whatever you want, it only shows the desperation of your argument. The facts of the issue have already been stated:

    1. Bush's SOFA contained the withdrawal deadline, not anything Obama negotiated.

    2. Iraq refused to agree to a new SOFA that continued routine troop immunity, so that was that. You might be willing to send them into that type of legal minefield, but thankfully Obama was not (I doubt Bush would have either).

    This tack taken by right wing media is not only propaganda, it is simply stupid.

    Also: Iraqi Status of Forces Agreement referendum, 2010 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    As to what Panetta has to say, he's got a book to sell and I don't think this is the first time he's stabbed the administration in the back. Maybe he's right, maybe he's wrong, but at the end of the day he's just giving an opinion based on nothing but his own interpretation, recollection, and version of events. Shoulda/coulda/woulda is not an effective argument.
    GWB's SOFA gave BHO freedom of action. BHO declined to use it.
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    Re: Panetta unloads on White House for pulling US forces out of Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    GWB's SOFA gave BHO freedom of action. BHO declined to use it.
    he used his freedom of action by choosing not to pursue it>
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    Re: Panetta unloads on White House for pulling US forces out of Iraq

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    he used his freedom of action by choosing not to pursue it>
    Indeed. And thereby helped bring ISIS into being.
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    Re: Panetta unloads on White House for pulling US forces out of Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    he used his freedom of action by choosing not to pursue it>
    Exactly. Now he owns what is happening there.

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    Re: Panetta unloads on White House for pulling US forces out of Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    GWB's SOFA gave BHO freedom of action. BHO declined to use it.
    Alternate reality. Again. What is it that so alienates the right from the real world? Disturbing . . . . .

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    Re: Panetta unloads on White House for pulling US forces out of Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    Alternate reality. Again. What is it that so alienates the right from the real world? Disturbing . . . . .
    All memoirs out thus far support my view.
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    Re: Panetta unloads on White House for pulling US forces out of Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Indeed. And thereby helped bring ISIS into being.
    al qeada in iraq became ISIS, and ISIS would not have been so successful if a large group of former bathast party members did not collaborate with the terrorist organization. these Bathasts were the same official's who were in power during Saddam's rule of iraq, and we deposed them and anyone who was part of the bathast party.
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    Re: Panetta unloads on White House for pulling US forces out of Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    al qeada in iraq became ISIS, and ISIS would not have been so successful if a large group of former bathast party members did not collaborate with the terrorist organization. these Bathasts were the same official's who were in power during Saddam's rule of iraq, and we deposed them and anyone who was part of the bathast party.
    Yes, and BHO created the environment that fostered that.
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    Re: Panetta unloads on White House for pulling US forces out of Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Exactly. Now he owns what is happening there.
    if the bush administration had kept the bathast party in power and only removed saddam and his family from power, maybe ISIS would not have found such a large group of willing Collaborators.
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    Re: Panetta unloads on White House for pulling US forces out of Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Yes, and BHO created the environment that fostered that.
    Barrack Obama did not dismantle the Bathast party, that was something the previous administration did.
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