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Now that is pushing the line.
10 minutes, but not an hour.
Sweets make me lose my mind. :mrgreen:
Now that is pushing the line.
10 minutes, but not an hour.
I'll bring the cake you bring the ice cold milk to go with it.
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Let the market weed out those who don't want to support same sex marriage. Public outcry is more powerful than any government mandate. No company will willingly hold anti-gay views publicly because it will destroy their business. And if they want to run that risk, who's to stop them.
Sweets make me lose my mind. :mrgreen:
That's kind of what I was implying when I suggested that they freely post their opinions in their businesses/storefronts.
It would be interesting.
Which federal law establishes that right?
Yes, thank you. I think I misinterpreted your earlier post.There are federal public accommodation laws. 1964 civil rights act, for instance. ADA is the other main example I can think of.
I think it would be a travesty if all Americans were forced by the government to accept all consumers even if they do not match up with their beliefs. I am the strongest supporter of gay marriage, but to look the other way in regards to the first amendment, it would be appalling.
Laws that prohibit businesses open to the public from refusing to serve blacks or refusing services to Jews or gays does nothing to violate the first Amendment. People still have their first amendment rights to say whatever they choose. They just don't have the right to deny service. That is not something that the First Amendment was ever intended to address.I think it would be a travesty if all Americans were forced by the government to accept all consumers even if they do not match up with their beliefs. I am the strongest supporter of gay marriage, but to look the other way in regards to the first amendment, it would be appalling.
Difficult to answer because whether or not you can kick them out really depends on where you live. Although the KKK would not be part of a protected class in the majority of states, most states have also prohibited discrimination if it is deemed arbitrary (you're not likely to get away with a "No Gingers Allowed" policy). Thus, if you kick someone out, you usually need to have a defensible business interest for doing so. If they're making other customers uncomfortable, hopefully that's reason enough.So I am reposting this because (I didnt see an answer and) after all the discussion, I'm still unclear.
Not trying to muckrake, I'd just like to know. I think if business owner did so, they'd find their business burned to the ground but that is because that's my perception of the KKK. Not sure if that's accurate but I believe that's the undercurrent still, if not on the surface.
Edit: Taylor may just have alluded to it in post 202.
Difficult to answer because whether or not you can kick them out really depends on where you live. Although the KKK would not be part of a protected class in the majority of states, most states have also prohibited discrimination if it is deemed arbitrary (you're not likely to get away with a "No Gingers Allowed" policy). Thus, if you kick someone out, you usually need to have a defensible business interest for doing so. If they're making other customers uncomfortable, hopefully that's reason enough.
So World Watcher and I responded to your questions, and you got rather abstract (unclear references to a song). It seems that businesses could express their beliefs and still not refuse service and discriminate.
My main point, in case it was lost, was that this alone might solve the business's issues with having to serve the demographic that they object to. They should not be ashamed to do so, correct?
I really do not have the slightest idea what you are saying.
Really? What specifically is confusing? I gave all the context I thought necessary in post 214.
I believe that was more of a prediction than an order.
OK, now that the issue of gay marriage has been settled, maybe the country can move ahead on less pressing issues, like ISIS, income inequality, unemployment, health care, illegal immigration, you know, all of those minor issues we're facing.
I live in Europe and we have freedom and property rights.
What laws cover that?
Very hard to say because each state organizes things differently. Many states added public accommodations statutes following the Federal action, but others may have older, relevant statutes elsewhere. There may also be local ordinances that wouldn't appear in the state statutes, and the function of the law might differ from what you would expect just by reading the statutes, in which case you'd have to look at case law. It's very messy, which is why it is often difficult to find convienent 50-state summaries that explain how some aspect of the law works in each state (and like a science textbook, by the time you get one completed, it is often already out of date).What laws cover that?
businesses will have to obey the law whether they like it or not.
Maybe you did. But you read my reaction. If you want to rephrase it I'll read it. But as it stands, it's too confused for me to want to guess what you want to say.
Very hard to say because each state organizes things differently. Many states added public accommodations statutes following the Federal action, but others may have older, relevant statutes elsewhere. There may also be local ordinances that wouldn't appear in the state statutes, and the function of the law might differ from what you would expect just by reading the statutes, in which case you'd have to look at case law. It's very messy, which is why it is often difficult to find convienent 50-state summaries that explain how some aspect of the law works in each state (and like a science textbook, by the time you get one completed, it is often already out of date).
True law can never condone such disgusting behavior. The documents which do so and purport to be laws are only corruptions of law, andno one is bound to obey them.
One of the European countries.