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    Re: Gay marriage, once inconceivable, now appears inevitable

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue_State View Post
    Awesome. Thanks for the info.

    You are welcome.



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    Re: Gay marriage, once inconceivable, now appears inevitable

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue_State View Post
    If I am Jewish, can I refuse to serve someone who has a swastika on their face?
    That would depend if it was on the right or left side of their face...

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    Re: Gay marriage, once inconceivable, now appears inevitable

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    There isn't. But there are laws that says that a person who hates black people can't refuse to rent them a room at their hotel, for example.

    Which is what is being talked about here. BUSINESSES being disallowed to discriminate in their open to the public businesses. Not laws disallowing people to discriminate in their private life.
    Why the distinction? Why not ban discrimination in all circumstances, and not just in some? If something is icky and hurtful and makes other humans feel yucky and invalidated, the less of it we allow the better, right? How can we ever hope to turn this country into one big kindergarten full of helpless victims if we settle for half-measures?

    You haven't said where business ends. If the parents of the guy who was beheaded in Syria wanted to rent a room in their house, how could they turn away an applicant because he was a fundamentalist Muslim? Surely the fact they'd have to watch him coming and going between their house and his jihadist meetings at the local subversive mosque, in all his garb, would be no excuse for their hateful Islamophobia!

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    Re: Gay marriage, once inconceivable, now appears inevitable

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Do you oppose all public accommodation laws or just the ones that protect gays? Can I put up a "NO CHRISTIANS ALLOWED" sign on my airplane? I don't want any passengers who think they're going somewhere better if we crash.
    Yeah, I oppose all such laws.
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    Re: Gay marriage, once inconceivable, now appears inevitable

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    If the society does not like the baker saying his mind they need not buy his cake. There is nothing to be said against that. To allow government to punish citizens for expressing their views is is really stupid and anti-democratic.
    Except it wasn't "expressing their views," it was denying service in a business that holds out to the public in violation of public accommodation laws. It's the same reason the government would punish you for a "No Blacks" sign.
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Gay marriage, once inconceivable, now appears inevitable

    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    Why the distinction? Why not ban discrimination in all circumstances, and not just in some? If something is icky and hurtful and makes other humans feel yucky and invalidated, the less of it we allow the better, right? How can we ever hope to turn this country into one big kindergarten full of helpless victims if we settle for half-measures?

    You haven't said where business ends. If the parents of the guy who was beheaded in Syria wanted to rent a room in their house, how could they turn away an applicant because he was a fundamentalist Muslim? Surely the fact they'd have to watch him coming and going between their house and his jihadist meetings at the local subversive mosque, in all his garb, would be no excuse for their hateful Islamophobia!
    If you prefer smaller government, why not just eliminate government completely? That's what you want to do, right? You want to end the United States, right? Why not do that?
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Gay marriage, once inconceivable, now appears inevitable

    Quote Originally Posted by WorldWatcher View Post
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    I've proposed a compromise for a number of years...

    1. Pass Same-sex Civil Marriage.

    2. Repeal Public Accommodation laws that apply to private businesses




    Same Sex Couple get Civil Marriages. Businesses are not required to provide goods and services to anyone they don't want to. Public Accommodation laws would only apply to government entities and would restrict the ability of government entities to contract with or provide funds to private organizations which have a discriminatory business model.



    It's a win/win.



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    Unless you're black living in Missouri. Not much of a win then.
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    Re: Gay marriage, once inconceivable, now appears inevitable

    Quote Originally Posted by WorldWatcher View Post
    >


    I've proposed a compromise for a number of years...

    1. Pass Same-sex Civil Marriage.

    2. Repeal Public Accommodation laws that apply to private businesses




    Same Sex Couple get Civil Marriages. Businesses are not required to provide goods and services to anyone they don't want to. Public Accommodation laws would only apply to government entities and would restrict the ability of government entities to contract with or provide funds to private organizations which have a discriminatory business model.



    It's a win/win.



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    You'll permit the institutionalization of racism and other bigotries if it means gays can marry? That's not a win-win, that's a selfish disgusting ignorant selling out of ones fellow man. Gratz.

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    Re: Gay marriage, once inconceivable, now appears inevitable

    Quote Originally Posted by WorldWatcher View Post
    >


    I've proposed a compromise for a number of years...

    1. Pass Same-sex Civil Marriage.

    2. Repeal Public Accommodation laws that apply to private businesses




    Same Sex Couple get Civil Marriages. Businesses are not required to provide goods and services to anyone they don't want to. Public Accommodation laws would only apply to government entities and would restrict the ability of government entities to contract with or provide funds to private organizations which have a discriminatory business model.



    It's a win/win.



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    Counter proposal: no.

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    Re: Gay marriage, once inconceivable, now appears inevitable

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    If you prefer smaller government, why not just eliminate government completely? That's what you want to do, right? You want to end the United States, right? Why not do that?
    That's hysterical nonsense, sure.

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