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    Re: Gay marriage, once inconceivable, now appears inevitable

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    One of the European countries.
    All the same, eh?

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    Re: Gay marriage, once inconceivable, now appears inevitable

    Quote Originally Posted by Paleocon View Post
    True law can never condone such disgusting behavior. The documents which do so and purport to be laws are only corruptions of law, and no one is bound to obey them.
    Actually, this is nothing but your opinion, a meaningless and irrelevant post. Let me demonstrate:

    1) Since it is not disgusting behavior, your post is irrelevant.
    2) Since true law is the law... and the law in many places is that SSM is legal, your post is irrelevant.
    3) Since you are bound to obey the law or face the consequences, your post is irrelevant.

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    Re: Gay marriage, once inconceivable, now appears inevitable

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    Unless they don't want to suffer the consequences of violating the law.




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    The consequences of violating real laws are much much worse.

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    Re: Gay marriage, once inconceivable, now appears inevitable

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    Really? So if Obama decides he doesn't like tanning establishments, he can have them all closed down and there's nothing the owners could do about it in court because they never had the right to open those businesses in the first place? That's what you believe?
    No. Mainly because the people would not approve of such an act just because. However, if some movement came along and gained enough popularity to show how harmful tanning salons were, gaining enough votes to outlaw them, then yes, the government (not just a single person in government, but a majority) could close down all tanning establishments, and there would be nothing the owners could do about it.

    How many legally operating opium dens do you see today in the US?
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    Re: Gay marriage, once inconceivable, now appears inevitable

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    That too. I don't recall anything in the Constitution that grants us the right to demand service from any business.
    There is also nothing written into the Constitution that grants us the right to operate a business, sell goods or services to the public with advantages given through public services, either. That is why it is all going to be balancing of unwritten rights of some to unwritten rights of others.
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    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    Re: Gay marriage, once inconceivable, now appears inevitable

    Quote Originally Posted by Samhain View Post
    I believe the legal term is "compelling state interest".

    I think private clubs are allowed to exclude "customers" based on those categories.
    What compelling interest would that be?

    Clubs like the KKK? That isn't a business, but it does raise the point of whiners here coming across as defending that kind of hatred.

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    Re: Gay marriage, once inconceivable, now appears inevitable

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    Unless they don't want to suffer the consequences of violating the law.
    As if he's in the position to deny marriage licenses...actually that sounds like a perfect opportunity to prove his theory correct: Go to a county clerk's office in say virginia and try to block same sex couples from getting married and see how quickly he gets arrested and how few join in on his pathetic 'cause'

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    Re: Gay marriage, once inconceivable, now appears inevitable

    Quote Originally Posted by Paleocon View Post
    The consequences of violating real laws are much much worse.
    I assume you mean religious our moral laws, but no one is asking YOU to violate any such law. All the 'fake' laws require is if you own a business, you provide goods or services to them like you do the other sinners on earth, which is all of us and you.

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    Re: Gay marriage, once inconceivable, now appears inevitable

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    I assume you mean religious our moral laws, but no one is asking YOU to violate any such law. All the 'fake' laws require is if you own a business, you provide goods or services to them like you do the other sinners on earth, which is all of us and you.
    And these "goods and services" can include things which celebrate their disordered conduct, as in the case of the wedding cake maker.

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    Re: Gay marriage, once inconceivable, now appears inevitable

    Quote Originally Posted by Paleocon View Post
    And these "goods and services" can include things which celebrate their disordered conduct, as in the case of the wedding cake maker.
    Do you mean the wedding cake maker who accepted an order to make a cake with a green pentagram on it for a coven to celebrate the solstice? Or was it the one who made a wedding cake for a dog wedding?

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