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    Re: Gay marriage, once inconceivable, now appears inevitable

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    Well I ever gave about that issue in the first place- what I was merely pointing out to is the fact that those like myself who could care less would still find it highly offensive if some dudes (or even chicks) tried their nonsense in say a restaurant or a venue where the emphasis is family time...

    Look gays, just like every "minority" generally self-segregated, weather it's sexuality, interests or even economic status..... It may appear that from a progressive point of few it may be "fear and hatred" but in reality it has nothing to do whit that and everything to do with a) creating a better life for your family and b) self salvation/tradition etc...
    There is nothing offensive or wrong about being gay or gay families unless parents CHOOSE to teach their children such. Just like if parents choose to teach that sex is dirty....you do more harm than good. But of course that's a parent's option but it has nothing to do with gay's right to enjoy restaurants and other family-oriented places.
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    Re: Gay marriage, once inconceivable, now appears inevitable

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    Re: Gay marriage, once inconceivable, now appears inevitable

    Quote Originally Posted by WorldWatcher View Post
    ....On the other hand businesses could reserve the right to discriminate based on any one (or more) of the selected criteria and maintain that certification on file with the business licensing bureau.
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    Depending on how that is formulated and handled that sounds like a good idea.

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    Re: Gay marriage, once inconceivable, now appears inevitable

    Quote Originally Posted by WorldWatcher View Post
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    It's the Civil Rights Act of 1964.


    It didn't include women.



    Women are covered under State Public Accommodation laws.



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    It seems you're right.

    It makes sense. It took another half century or so from the time blacks were allowed to vote until women were allowed the same. Equal rights for women seems to lag behind a bit.
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    Re: Gay marriage, once inconceivable, now appears inevitable

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    Interesting. I wonder why that is? I guess I can think of a few reasons, such as segregation of restroom facilities.
    A good question. Although restrooms do not fall under the definition of public accommodations, they would be covered if part of an establishment that is (i.e. restaurants, hotels, entertainment venues). In theory, it would be legal under federal law (though stupid from a practical standpoint) to start a public outhouse business that catered to only one sex.

    The Federal government has no power to prohibit discriminatory public accommodations simply because they are discriminatory or mean-spirited. It must have a good reason to limit the rights of the business owner, therefore Federal accommodations laws need to be crafted as narrowly as possible.

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    Re: Gay marriage, once inconceivable, now appears inevitable

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    I can't fathom the American constitution forcing people to break their religious beliefs.
    Only a Christian belief. Otherwise you have all the protections in the world.

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    Re: Gay marriage, once inconceivable, now appears inevitable

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    It seems you're right.

    It makes sense. It took another half century or so from the time blacks were allowed to vote until women were allowed the same. Equal rights for women seems to lag behind a bit.
    Public accommodations is not really an equal rights issue. There is no constitutional right to be treated equally at a restaurant.

    The government is not protecting the rights of those being discriminated against, but impinging on the restaurant owner's right to discriminate because it believes it has a legitimate interest in doing so.
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    Re: Gay marriage, once inconceivable, now appears inevitable

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    Only a Christian belief. Otherwise you have all the protections in the world.
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