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    Re: Gay marriage, once inconceivable, now appears inevitable

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Makes you wonder what thing, inconceivable today, will be accepted as normal 30 years from now.
    Interracial furniture polygamy.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Gay marriage, once inconceivable, now appears inevitable

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    Really? Gender is federally protected. Can you provide a few examples that show what you mean?

    You may be right...we still dont have protection for equal pay for women.
    Gender is not federally protected with respect to public accommodations... most (probably all) states now have more stringent law, but whether or not (and the extent) to which gender is protected is a matter of state law:

    42 U.S. Code § 2000a - Prohibition against discrimination or segregation in places of public accommodation

    Current through Pub. L. 113-163. (See Public Laws for the current Congress.)
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    (a) Equal access
    All persons shall be entitled to the full and equal enjoyment of the goods, services, facilities, privileges, advantages, and accommodations of any place of public accommodation, as defined in this section, without discrimination or segregation on the ground of race, color, religion, or national origin.
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    Re: Gay marriage, once inconceivable, now appears inevitable

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    As the Supreme Court prepares to decide the future of same-sex marriage--an institution described as "newer than cellphones or the internet by one justice last year--two things are clear.
    Despite this year's breathtaking string of lower court victories, the battle for marriage equality hasn't been swift or easy. To the lawyers who devised the legal strategy decades ago, the journey has been arduous, the setbacks plentiful, and the battle scars deep.

    And even after the high court rules--most likely striking down state bans on gay marriage at the end of its term in June--the fight won't be over. Another clash looms over the issue of religious freedom.

    Read the article here: Gay marriage, once inconceivable, now appears inevitable

    It looks like this battle has reached an important point.I don't believe that the 1st Amendment will stop this from happening.

    Churches will be able to do what they want to do, but businesses will have to obey the law whether they like it or not.
    I don't believe many carry about the marriage aspect - however will gays be socially accepted is a completely different story.

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    Re: Gay marriage, once inconceivable, now appears inevitable

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    I don't believe many carry about the marriage aspect - however will gays be socially accepted is a completely different story.
    Clearly many do care about the marriage aspect. We've seen it in every state that has legalized same-sex marriage.

    As for socially acceptable, the trends on that are also quite clear.

    The anti-equality crowd has already lost this fight. It's just a bureaucratic process at this point.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Gay marriage, once inconceivable, now appears inevitable

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Clearly many do care about the marriage aspect. We've seen it in every state that has legalized same-sex marriage.

    As for socially acceptable, the trends on that are also quite clear.

    The anti-equality crowd has already lost this fight. It's just a bureaucratic process at this point.
    Well I ever gave about that issue in the first place- what I was merely pointing out to is the fact that those like myself who could care less would still find it highly offensive if some dudes (or even chicks) tried their nonsense in say a restaurant or a venue where the emphasis is family time...

    Look gays, just like every "minority" generally self-segregated, weather it's sexuality, interests or even economic status..... It may appear that from a progressive point of few it may be "fear and hatred" but in reality it has nothing to do whit that and everything to do with a) creating a better life for your family and b) self salvation/tradition etc...
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    Re: Gay marriage, once inconceivable, now appears inevitable

    inconceivable... I had to chuckle.

    I would hope that the SCOTUS finds that this is not a federal issue as it certainly is.

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    Re: Gay marriage, once inconceivable, now appears inevitable

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    Gender is not federally protected with respect to public accommodations... most (probably all) states now have more stringent law, but whether or not (and the extent) to which gender is protected is a matter of state law:

    42 U.S. Code § 2000a - Prohibition against discrimination or segregation in places of public accommodation

    Current through Pub. L. 113-163. (See Public Laws for the current Congress.)
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    (a) Equal access
    All persons shall be entitled to the full and equal enjoyment of the goods, services, facilities, privileges, advantages, and accommodations of any place of public accommodation, as defined in this section, without discrimination or segregation on the ground of race, color, religion, or national origin.
    I'm willing to bet that there isn't a court in this country that wouldn't rule in favor of a man or woman that was turned away from a business just for being a man or woman, particularly if there was no transgenderism involved.
    "A woman is like a teabag, you never know how strong she is until she gets in hot water." - Eleanor Roosevelt

    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    Re: Gay marriage, once inconceivable, now appears inevitable

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    I'm willing to bet that there isn't a court in this country that wouldn't rule in favor of a man or woman that was turned away from a business just for being a man or woman, particularly if there was no transgenderism involved.
    As long as it's understood that this is a guess on your part and not necessarily required by law in all states.

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    Re: Gay marriage, once inconceivable, now appears inevitable

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    As long as it's understood that this is a guess on your part and not necessarily required by law in all states.
    Do you believe that a Muslim store owner in any state would not face legal action if he (almost certainly would be a man given the situation) were to refuse to serve a woman who was not accompanied by a man?
    "A woman is like a teabag, you never know how strong she is until she gets in hot water." - Eleanor Roosevelt

    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    Re: Gay marriage, once inconceivable, now appears inevitable

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Do you believe that a Muslim store owner in any state would not face legal action if he (almost certainly would be a man given the situation) were to refuse to serve a woman who was not accompanied by a man?
    What law is being violated?

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