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    Re: Justices mum on whether to review same-sex marriage constitutionality

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    In other words, you have no defense. Got it...
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    Representatives shall be apportioned among the several states according to their respective numbers, counting the whole number of persons in each state, excluding Indians not taxed. But when the right to vote at any election for the choice of electors for President and Vice President of the United States, Representatives in Congress, the executive and judicial officers of a state, or the members of the legislature thereof, is denied to any of the male inhabitants of such state, being twenty-one years of age, and citizens of the United States, or in any way abridged, except for participation in rebellion, or other crime, the basis of representation therein shall be reduced in the proportion which the number of such male citizens shall bear to the whole number of male citizens twenty-one years of age in such state.

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    Re: Justices mum on whether to review same-sex marriage constitutionality

    Quote Originally Posted by JC_CT View Post
    How about the 14th Amendment, the one I originally referenced?
    Does that amendment give one the ability to do anything? Context is important...
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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    I am for gay marriage because it ticks off Jesus freaks and social conservatives. Gays are also good voters because the vote for my side so I fight next to them.

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    Re: Justices mum on whether to review same-sex marriage constitutionality

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    Does that amendment give one the ability to do anything? Context is important...
    You mean the context of women not being allowed to vote? Or some other context?

    Why are you afraid of gay people getting married?

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    Re: Justices mum on whether to review same-sex marriage constitutionality

    Quote Originally Posted by JC_CT View Post
    Section 2.

    Representatives shall be apportioned among the several states according to their respective numbers, counting the whole number of persons in each state, excluding Indians not taxed. But when the right to vote at any election for the choice of electors for President and Vice President of the United States, Representatives in Congress, the executive and judicial officers of a state, or the members of the legislature thereof, is denied to any of the male inhabitants of such state, being twenty-one years of age, and citizens of the United States, or in any way abridged, except for participation in rebellion, or other crime, the basis of representation therein shall be reduced in the proportion which the number of such male citizens shall bear to the whole number of male citizens twenty-one years of age in such state.
    Please show me where slavery is sanctioned in the Constitution or where men were the only ones allowed to vote. Those were State constructs and outside of its purview until the Constitution was amended...
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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    I am for gay marriage because it ticks off Jesus freaks and social conservatives. Gays are also good voters because the vote for my side so I fight next to them.

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    Re: Justices mum on whether to review same-sex marriage constitutionality

    Quote Originally Posted by JC_CT View Post
    You mean the context of women not being allowed to vote? Or some other context?

    Why are you afraid of gay people getting married?
    I'm not afraid of it, I'm wondering why the federal government is involved. Aren't you?
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
    Quote Originally Posted by James D Hill View Post
    I am for gay marriage because it ticks off Jesus freaks and social conservatives. Gays are also good voters because the vote for my side so I fight next to them.

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    Re: Justices mum on whether to review same-sex marriage constitutionality

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    I'm not afraid of it, I'm wondering why the federal government is involved. Aren't you?
    Not even in the slightest. Equality is equality. If the states won't do it, then the federal gov't needs to. We wouldn't leave slavery or women's rights up to the states. We have the tool to stop this bigotry without needing Constitutional amendment, and we should use it. And we are.

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    Re: Justices mum on whether to review same-sex marriage constitutionality

    Quote Originally Posted by JC_CT View Post
    Not even in the slightest. Equality is equality. If the states won't do it, then the federal gov't needs to. We wouldn't leave slavery or women's rights up to the states. We have the tool to stop this bigotry without needing Constitutional amendment, and we should use it. And we are.
    This is the problem, looking to the courts to do what cannot be done by changing the Constitution. If these issues were truly supported by a majority, the amendment process is not that daunting, but using a few (courts) to impose their will is a bit easier I suppose...
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
    Quote Originally Posted by James D Hill View Post
    I am for gay marriage because it ticks off Jesus freaks and social conservatives. Gays are also good voters because the vote for my side so I fight next to them.

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    Re: Justices mum on whether to review same-sex marriage constitutionality

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    This is the problem, looking to the courts to do what cannot be done by changing the Constitution. If these issues were truly supported by a majority, the amendment process is not that daunting, but using a few (courts) to impose their will is a bit easier I suppose...
    Or we could just stop ignoring the 14th Amendment and call it a day.

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    Re: Justices mum on whether to review same-sex marriage constitutionality

    Quote Originally Posted by JC_CT View Post
    Or we could just stop ignoring the 14th Amendment and call it a day.
    The 14th could be interpreted to protect any action. Is this what you would prefer?
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
    Quote Originally Posted by James D Hill View Post
    I am for gay marriage because it ticks off Jesus freaks and social conservatives. Gays are also good voters because the vote for my side so I fight next to them.

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    Re: Justices mum on whether to review same-sex marriage constitutionality

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    The 14th could be interpreted to protect any action. Is this what you would prefer?
    No, it couldn't. It provides EQUAL protection, not ANY protection.

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