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    Re: Justices mum on whether to review same-sex marriage constitutionality

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    SSM, like the 2A or abortion rights, either is or is not allowed to be decided at the state level. I fear that the result will be based upon another hidden or implied "constitutional" right rather than any language actually in the US constitution.

    I personally favor the expansion of marriage but also see it totally as a state gov't matter, while I see the 2A as a "right of the people" that a state may not violate (abridge or deny) and abortion falls somewhere in between (so long as not gov't funded).

    In order to establish any "protected class" should require specific constitutional action just as it did to give women the vote or to disallow racial/gender discrimination. The idea that "equal protection" (amendment passed in 1868) means that marriage must be wide open (equal to the least restrictive state law) yet carrying a handgun can require state permission is loony.
    Who said anything about "wide open?" Gender is a protected classification like you just said, and same sex marriage bans are clearly an issue of gender.

    legal same sex marriage doesn't make marriage "wide open." Maybe you only say that because you personally disapprove of homosexuals being married.
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Justices mum on whether to review same-sex marriage constitutionality

    I hope the justices deny marriage but allow civil unions with full benefits.
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    Re: Justices mum on whether to review same-sex marriage constitutionality

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    I hope the justices deny marriage but allow civil unions with full benefits.
    That would be a good start, but ideally the justices would rule that it's Unconstitutional for the Federal government to have any involvement in marriage in the first place, and make everything including heterosexual marriages "civil unions" in the eyes of the law. Otherwise, exactly what article of the Constitution gives the Federal government the authority to define and regulate marriage?

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    Re: Justices mum on whether to review same-sex marriage constitutionality

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    I hope the justices deny marriage but allow civil unions with full benefits.
    So you'll allow "them" to get married, but "they" can't use the word "marriage".

    Equal, but not the same.

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    Re: Justices mum on whether to review same-sex marriage constitutionality

    The right thing to do would be to uphold the fact that it's a state's rights issue and that states have the right to manage their own marriage laws. This isn't something that should be dictated at the federal level.
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    Re: Justices mum on whether to review same-sex marriage constitutionality

    Quote Originally Posted by Papa bull View Post
    The right thing to do would be to uphold the fact that it's a state's rights issue and that states have the right to manage their own marriage laws. This isn't something that should be dictated at the federal level.
    Of course it is, we have full faith and credit clause in the Constitution. A person married in one state must be treated as married in all states. Therefore it's a federal thing.
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    Re: Justices mum on whether to review same-sex marriage constitutionality

    Quote Originally Posted by Papa bull View Post
    The right thing to do would be to uphold the fact that it's a state's rights issue and that states have the right to manage their own marriage laws. This isn't something that should be dictated at the federal level.
    So if one state decided that mixed race marriages were not "true marriages", you'd be fine with that since it's up to each state?

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    Re: Justices mum on whether to review same-sex marriage constitutionality

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    So if one state decided that mixed race marriages were not "true marriages", you'd be fine with that since it's up to each state?

    Alabama did that, they passed a State Constitutional amendment to ban mixed race marriages.



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    Re: Justices mum on whether to review same-sex marriage constitutionality

    Quote Originally Posted by Papa bull View Post
    The right thing to do would be to uphold the fact that it's a state's rights issue and that states have the right to manage their own marriage laws. This isn't something that should be dictated at the federal level.
    No, the right thing to do is enforce the equal protection clause regarding this unconstitutional distinction of gender.
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Justices mum on whether to review same-sex marriage constitutionality

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    No, the right thing to do is enforce the equal protection clause regarding this unconstitutional distinction of gender.
    THIS!!! It's like people haven't actually read the Constitution.

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