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Eighty People in Dallas Area Being Monitored for Ebola

DA60 said:
'More than 80 people in Dallas are being monitored for symptoms of Ebola after coming into contact with patient Thomas Eric Duncan or others who Duncan had met, health officials said.

The people have been asked to report to Texas health officials or the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention if they show signs of the deadly virus, Erikka Neroes, a spokeswoman for Dallas County Department of Health and Human Services, said by telephone. Early signs can include a high temperature or other flu-like symptoms.'

Eighty People in Dallas Area Being Monitored for Ebola - Bloomberg


And the paranoia will soon begin?
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Precaution is not the same thing as paranoia...
 
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Lursa said:
Does this not sound like the right thing to do? Reasonable and voluntary? Responsible?

Why are you implying paranoia? For the public? We already know the guy is here and didnt get to the hospital in a self-contained, negative-pressure hamster ball.

What would be nice is if none of the 80 people come down with Ebola and the public sees that it's not easily transmissible.
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I implied nothing.

I simply asked a question.
 
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MMC said:
Mornin' DA. :2wave: They also Know he switched flights from Washington Dulles Airport to Dallas. Parents have pulled their kids out of schools. Hearing he came into contact with kids from 4 different schools.

Also this morning they are saying Hawaii may have another potential case.
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Good evening MMC :2wave:

That is just one case started all of this.

I tell you, if terrorists REALLY want to freak America out, they should send a bunch of their types - the more western looking and English-speaking ones - to Africa and deliberately get infected. Then smuggle themselves into America and start infecting as many people as they can.
It would be a different type of suicide bomber.

I assume (and hope) U.S. authorities have thought of this possibility as well.
 
Lursa said:
Just their airports. Or any shipping coming from there or dont let the seaman get off in our ports.
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What about all the Americans who work offshore who are coming in?
 
fedup said:
Precaution is not the same thing as paranoia...
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No excrement.

:rolleyes:

I was asking a question about the future, not commenting about the precautions.
 
nota bene said:
What about all the Americans who work offshore who are coming in?
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What about them? Offshore of America or Africa?

Offshore America is pretty easy to assess...did anyone from those African countries affected visit there?
 
DA60 said:
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I implied nothing.

I simply asked a question.
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Well you picked something....paranoia...for your question. It wasnt precaution, caution, interest, etc. It wasnt, 'how do you think the public will react?' So it was a leading question, if nothing else.

I guess I went in the direction I was lead.
 
Ontologuy said:
Lock down Dallas/Ft Worth now!
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OP's quip about paranoia is annoying. But you are topping it by suggesting measures which are not only insanely ridiculous but impossible to enforce.
 
I've been in favor of eliminating all immigration for years now. Because:
1. We have 300,000,000 and don't need more, and,
2. Getting a plague isn't on my bucket list.
 
How about we put a travel ban on travel to the country and from the country to the US
 
Lursa said:
What about them? Offshore of America or Africa?

Offshore America is pretty easy to assess...did anyone from those African countries affected visit there?
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Not from those African countries, from the United States. As I said, "Americans who are working off-shore and coming in." There are lots of Americans who work off-shore.
 
SENSIBLE PATRIO said:
How about we put a travel ban on travel to the country and from the country to the US
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Obama STILL hasn't banned flights into the heartland of the US from Liberia.
 
I thought Duncan's flight was from Liberia to Brussels and from Brussels to the U.S.
 
nota bene said:
I thought Duncan's flight was from Liberia to Brussels and from Brussels to the U.S.
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His point of origin would have been stamped on his Passport.
 
My point was that Duncan's flight wasn't from Liberia into the heartland.
 
nota bene said:
My point was that Duncan's flight wasn't from Liberia into the heartland.
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Yes, I got that and I realize travel from Liberia or just in General West Africa wouldn't exactly be a straight shot into the heartland.

But, all the information needed to ban travel out of Ebola ground zero is contained in those travelers passports.

Honestly, its OUT OF CONTROL over there

The CDC thinks of Customs as their First line of defense.

Someone hasn't given the order to place the needed restrictions to protect American public safety yet.
 
Fenton said:
Yes, I got that and I realize travel from Liberia or just in General West Africa wouldn't exactly be a straight shot into the heartland.

But, all the information needed to ban travel out of Ebola ground zero is contained in those travelers passports.

Honestly, its OUT OF CONTROL over there

The CDC thinks of Customs as their First line of defense.

Someone hasn't given the order to place the needed restrictions to protect American public safety yet.
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For those keeping score: Mortar round lands within a kilometer of Ben Gurion airport and the WH orders a ban on flights to Israel. Ebola victims flying into major US cities... keep the airports open?
 
Fenton said:
His point of origin would have been stamped on his Passport.
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More than that, there would be a traceable digital record of the point of origin for all passengers.

If we leave the flights open and allow free access to the US then what happens if/when the carrier is a willing host and specifically avoids the hospital in order to expose the largest number of people?

The nightmare scenario would be a host landing in a major city, spreading the disease among public transit passengers and then going off somewhere to die quietly. Without the knowledge of the vectoring host there would be no quarantine.
 
DA60 said:
'More than 80 people in Dallas are being monitored for symptoms of Ebola after coming into contact with patient Thomas Eric Duncan or others who Duncan had met, health officials said.

The people have been asked to report to Texas health officials or the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention if they show signs of the deadly virus, Erikka Neroes, a spokeswoman for Dallas County Department of Health and Human Services, said by telephone. Early signs can include a high temperature or other flu-like symptoms.'

Eighty People in Dallas Area Being Monitored for Ebola - Bloomberg


And the paranoia will soon begin?
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Paranoia?

Paranoia is an unfounded fear. With how it spreads - if you're concerned then, no, it's not a matter of paranoia but common sense and safety.
 
The well oiled machine of government has conflicting regulations on treating contaminated materials, leaving hospital linens to pile up as they wait for a clear direction...

This is why government sucks, folks. It so paralyzes those on the front lines that they can't even show the initiative to burn contaminated sheets without waiting for bureaucrats to get their heads out of their asses.
 
clownboy said:
Heh, telling them to stay indoors means absolutely nothing and is not a substitute for quarantine.
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Agreed, but unless you're prepared to take everyone you suspect of being exposed to ebola and isolate them from the general population for the prerequisite incubation period - 21 days - you have no choice but to trust that these people heed the warning and stay indoors. Understand, we're talking about people who may have come in contact with someone who eventually showed signs of contracting the virus, but aren't showing symptoms at present. As you stated previously, some people will believe they are 100% fine if they aren't having symptoms and ignore the warnings. Others will believe a sneeze, a cough or slight fever is common. The thing everyone needs to keep in the forefront of their mind is TRY NOT TO PANIC, but HEED THE ADVICE FROM PUBLIC HEALTH OFFICIALS and STAY HOME if you're suspected of coming in contact with someone who has been exposed or suspected of contracting the ebola virus.

21 days confined to your home is a small price to pay to save your life or the lives of others.
 
apdst said:
We need to suspend all travel between The United States and Africa and seal the border.
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I wouldn't mind seeing about a million people infected and dying to prove once and for all that our borders are important to protect.
 
Objective Voice said:
Agreed, but unless you're prepared to take everyone you suspect of being exposed to ebola and isolate them from the general population for the prerequisite incubation period - 21 days - you have no choice but to trust that these people heed the warning and stay indoors. Understand, we're talking about people who may have come in contact with someone who eventually showed signs of contracting the virus, but aren't showing symptoms at present. As you stated previously, some people will believe they are 100% fine if they aren't having symptoms and ignore the warnings. Others will believe a sneeze, a cough or slight fever is common. The thing everyone needs to keep in the forefront of their mind is TRY NOT TO PANIC, but HEED THE ADVICE FROM PUBLIC HEALTH OFFICIALS and STAY HOME if you're suspected of coming in contact with someone who has been exposed or suspected of contracting the ebola virus.

21 days confined to your home is a small price to pay to save your life or the lives of others.
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No, you do not give people a suggested 21 day requisite and then trust that they will obey that order.

You forcibly detain them.

Im pretty sure this is happening in a large West African population Dallas. These people, left to their own devices back in Sub Sahara Africa obviously cannot manage this issue.

For whatever reason, they are not capable of making the necessary decisions to stop the spread of this disease.
 
Ontologuy said:
It's important to remember that once a person begins showing symptoms, it feels like a cold .. the next day, it feels like the flu .. the third day and the fourth day it feels like a really, really bad flu and only then do half the people so suffering seek medical help, the other half (if they can afford it) sought help on the first or second day.

But, on that first day, they were contagious. And, a study linked to in another recent thread at this forum states that the virus stays on materials the person touches for about six days or so, materials like TV remotes, bathroom towels, school lockers, tissue boxes .. door knobs. Everyone touches their face more than 1000 times/day, the face, where viral entry points of the mouth, nose, and eyes reside.

An Ebola virus epidemic in America won't kill tens of thousands -- it will be more like tens of millions!

It's time to act now with liberal quarantines and associated measures .. to stop a pending epidemic.
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Again, I agree.

The Dallas hospital, upon realizing their mistake in not sharing travel information between nursing staff and the ER doctor as well as not admitting and isolating this guy from the start, acted quickly to start the investigative process in earnest! My prayer is that the 80-100 people who are being monitored on a daily basis stay home for the prerequisite period, but that should anyone show symptoms to contact the hospital immediately to be transported and NOT try making the trip themselves.

Frankly, I thought it was STUPID for the food charity to deliver food to the apartment when I believe the victim's brother lives WITHOUT wearing protective gear (on her feet). The guy stepped outside his apartment onto the landing/balcony. There's no telling if tracked the virus outside on the souls of his shoes.
 
Fenton said:
No, you do not give people a suggested 21 day requisite and then trust that they will obey that order.

You forcibly detain them.

Im pretty sure this is happening in a large West African population Dallas. These people, left to their own devices back in Sub Sahara Africa obviously cannot manage this issue.

For whatever reason, they are not capable of making the necessary decisions to stop the spread of this disease.
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Like I said, unless you're ready to go that far...

Ontologuy makes some very valid points. You don't want to start a panic neither in the general population or within our economy. But ultimately you're right. I firmly believe that now is the time to impose light quarantines on those who are suspected of being exposed. I also think it would be wise to monitor ALL flights coming into the U.S. that either originated from West Africa or had a lay-over anywhere including in Europe.
 
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