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    Re: Eighty People in Dallas Area Being Monitored for Ebola

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Heh, telling them to stay indoors means absolutely nothing and is not a substitute for quarantine.
    Agreed, but unless you're prepared to take everyone you suspect of being exposed to ebola and isolate them from the general population for the prerequisite incubation period - 21 days - you have no choice but to trust that these people heed the warning and stay indoors. Understand, we're talking about people who may have come in contact with someone who eventually showed signs of contracting the virus, but aren't showing symptoms at present. As you stated previously, some people will believe they are 100% fine if they aren't having symptoms and ignore the warnings. Others will believe a sneeze, a cough or slight fever is common. The thing everyone needs to keep in the forefront of their mind is TRY NOT TO PANIC, but HEED THE ADVICE FROM PUBLIC HEALTH OFFICIALS and STAY HOME if you're suspected of coming in contact with someone who has been exposed or suspected of contracting the ebola virus.

    21 days confined to your home is a small price to pay to save your life or the lives of others.
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    Re: Eighty People in Dallas Area Being Monitored for Ebola

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    We need to suspend all travel between The United States and Africa and seal the border.
    I wouldn't mind seeing about a million people infected and dying to prove once and for all that our borders are important to protect.

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    Re: Eighty People in Dallas Area Being Monitored for Ebola

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    Agreed, but unless you're prepared to take everyone you suspect of being exposed to ebola and isolate them from the general population for the prerequisite incubation period - 21 days - you have no choice but to trust that these people heed the warning and stay indoors. Understand, we're talking about people who may have come in contact with someone who eventually showed signs of contracting the virus, but aren't showing symptoms at present. As you stated previously, some people will believe they are 100% fine if they aren't having symptoms and ignore the warnings. Others will believe a sneeze, a cough or slight fever is common. The thing everyone needs to keep in the forefront of their mind is TRY NOT TO PANIC, but HEED THE ADVICE FROM PUBLIC HEALTH OFFICIALS and STAY HOME if you're suspected of coming in contact with someone who has been exposed or suspected of contracting the ebola virus.

    21 days confined to your home is a small price to pay to save your life or the lives of others.


    No, you do not give people a suggested 21 day requisite and then trust that they will obey that order.

    You forcibly detain them.

    Im pretty sure this is happening in a large West African population Dallas. These people, left to their own devices back in Sub Sahara Africa obviously cannot manage this issue.

    For whatever reason, they are not capable of making the necessary decisions to stop the spread of this disease.

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    Re: Eighty People in Dallas Area Being Monitored for Ebola

    Quote Originally Posted by Ontologuy View Post
    It's important to remember that once a person begins showing symptoms, it feels like a cold .. the next day, it feels like the flu .. the third day and the fourth day it feels like a really, really bad flu and only then do half the people so suffering seek medical help, the other half (if they can afford it) sought help on the first or second day.

    But, on that first day, they were contagious. And, a study linked to in another recent thread at this forum states that the virus stays on materials the person touches for about six days or so, materials like TV remotes, bathroom towels, school lockers, tissue boxes .. door knobs. Everyone touches their face more than 1000 times/day, the face, where viral entry points of the mouth, nose, and eyes reside.

    An Ebola virus epidemic in America won't kill tens of thousands -- it will be more like tens of millions!

    It's time to act now with liberal quarantines and associated measures .. to stop a pending epidemic.
    Again, I agree.

    The Dallas hospital, upon realizing their mistake in not sharing travel information between nursing staff and the ER doctor as well as not admitting and isolating this guy from the start, acted quickly to start the investigative process in earnest! My prayer is that the 80-100 people who are being monitored on a daily basis stay home for the prerequisite period, but that should anyone show symptoms to contact the hospital immediately to be transported and NOT try making the trip themselves.

    Frankly, I thought it was STUPID for the food charity to deliver food to the apartment when I believe the victim's brother lives WITHOUT wearing protective gear (on her feet). The guy stepped outside his apartment onto the landing/balcony. There's no telling if tracked the virus outside on the souls of his shoes.
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    Re: Eighty People in Dallas Area Being Monitored for Ebola

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    No, you do not give people a suggested 21 day requisite and then trust that they will obey that order.

    You forcibly detain them.

    Im pretty sure this is happening in a large West African population Dallas. These people, left to their own devices back in Sub Sahara Africa obviously cannot manage this issue.

    For whatever reason, they are not capable of making the necessary decisions to stop the spread of this disease.
    Like I said, unless you're ready to go that far...

    Ontologuy makes some very valid points. You don't want to start a panic neither in the general population or within our economy. But ultimately you're right. I firmly believe that now is the time to impose light quarantines on those who are suspected of being exposed. I also think it would be wise to monitor ALL flights coming into the U.S. that either originated from West Africa or had a lay-over anywhere including in Europe.
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    Re: Eighty People in Dallas Area Being Monitored for Ebola

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    I wouldn't mind seeing about a million people infected and dying to prove once and for all that our borders are important to protect.
    I bet Obama wants the same thing..."never let a good crisis go to waste."
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    Re: Eighty People in Dallas Area Being Monitored for Ebola

    One of the lessons to be learned from ebola is that American ingenuity is, currently, mostly tied directly to profit. Why didn't we already have a vaccine for ebola? There was nobody to sell it to! Could we have saved thousands, or hundreds of thousands, or millions of people? Probably. But if it didn't make somebody rich, it wasn't a priority. It's not like capitalism is any worse than socialism. They all have flaws. But it's very sad that we live in a country where corporations only help people when doing so makes them billions of dollars.
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    Re: Eighty People in Dallas Area Being Monitored for Ebola

    D.C. hospital admits patient with Ebola-like symptoms

    The patient recently traveled to Nigeria.


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    Re: Eighty People in Dallas Area Being Monitored for Ebola

    Quote Originally Posted by Simpleχity View Post
    D.C. hospital admits patient with Ebola-like symptoms

    The patient recently traveled to Nigeria.
    Perhaps if Ebola spreads around DC, the administration will take more notice and stop incoming travel from those countries - otherwise, next it'll be New York, Los Angeles, Chicago.... etc.etc.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Eighty People in Dallas Area Being Monitored for Ebola

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Perhaps if Ebola spreads around DC, the administration will take more notice and stop incoming travel from those countries - otherwise, next it'll be New York, Los Angeles, Chicago.... etc.etc.
    I'm honestly surprised it's not, already.

    I think it will be soon, though. It didn't take long for it to begin to spread in the US - just one person, one flight. A news guy with a video camera. You know - run of the mill traveling and business.
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