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    Re: Eighty People in Dallas Area Being Monitored for Ebola

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    I was in a briefing concerning the Dallas patient and the risks this virus poses to the general public, and you're right. Because the on-set of Ebola mimics flu-like symptoms it's very easy for people to brush it off as if they just have a common cold or flu. It's not until the symptoms get worse - severe headache, fever, vomiting, diarrhea and especially the bleeding - do people begin to take notice (code for PANIC!). The good news is you'll know you've contracted the virus within 4-11 days. The bad news is at least half the people who develop symptoms will likely die.

    The only way to beat this virus is to quarantine everyone whose been exposed for at least 21 days and to decontaminate or burn (as necessary) everything they've touched. We may have a very good public health system, but this is a germ you don't want to get out into the general population.
    Well stated.

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    Re: Eighty People in Dallas Area Being Monitored for Ebola

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    I don't know if we've failed just yet. People who health officials believe may have been exposed have been told to stay indoors. It's hard to put a cop at everyone's front door, but if folks start flooding hospitals from the Dallas/Ft. Worth area I'd definitely consider putting the entire city on lockdown if I were the mayor/Governor.
    Heh, telling them to stay indoors means absolutely nothing and is not a substitute for quarantine.

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    Re: Eighty People in Dallas Area Being Monitored for Ebola

    Playing Plague. Inc, named my virus Ebola, and started in Africa.

    I think I might be a terrible person for enjoying this so much.

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    Re: Eighty People in Dallas Area Being Monitored for Ebola

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Agreed, but we have already failed that standard and there is no will as yet to live up to it. Not to mention, the virus going airborne is not the only mutation danger. It could jump species (again). Imagine if it were to jump bovine.
    Your concern about us being too slow to act appropriately is valid, and the reason for our delay to enact appropriate quarantines is likely a combination of feeling "bullet-proof" in a country with our CDC and concern that the media will play everything up to the degree it will spook the economy. Both these reasons are foolish ones upon which to base delaying implementing a multi-million people life-saving measure.

    As to the virus jumping species, yes, indeed a valid concern, especially if it jumps to our food supply.

    Now is the time to employ very liberal quarantines and associated measures, before even America's "greatest" economists themselves start calling for those measures.
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    Re: Eighty People in Dallas Area Being Monitored for Ebola

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I'm thinking of the consequences of a nationwide epidemic that could kill tens of thousands of Americans.
    It's important to remember that once a person begins showing symptoms, it feels like a cold .. the next day, it feels like the flu .. the third day and the fourth day it feels like a really, really bad flu and only then do half the people so suffering seek medical help, the other half (if they can afford it) sought help on the first or second day.

    But, on that first day, they were contagious. And, a study linked to in another recent thread at this forum states that the virus stays on materials the person touches for about six days or so, materials like TV remotes, bathroom towels, school lockers, tissue boxes .. door knobs. Everyone touches their face more than 1000 times/day, the face, where viral entry points of the mouth, nose, and eyes reside.

    An Ebola virus epidemic in America won't kill tens of thousands -- it will be more like tens of millions!

    It's time to act now with liberal quarantines and associated measures .. to stop a pending epidemic.
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    Re: Eighty People in Dallas Area Being Monitored for Ebola

    If they have identified all of the primary contacts and secondary contacts, isolated and are monitoring them.
    we will get some idea how contagious this really is.
    I think I read that 12 to 14 people were primary contacts, when he was contagious.
    If all of then come down with Ebola, we have a problem.
    If say 2 out of the 14 get the virus, it will still be a concern.
    If none of the primary contacts get sick, this could die out quick.

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    Re: Eighty People in Dallas Area Being Monitored for Ebola

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Mornin' DA .

    Also this morning they are saying Hawaii may have another potential case.
    Oh sh**!
    I'm heading to Hawaii for 10 days starting tomorrow.
    Hopefully, my pina colada diet will keep the virus at bay.
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    Re: Eighty People in Dallas Area Being Monitored for Ebola

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    I don't know if we've failed just yet. People who health officials believe may have been exposed have been told to stay indoors. It's hard to put a cop at everyone's front door, but if folks start flooding hospitals from the Dallas/Ft. Worth area I'd definitely consider putting the entire city on lockdown if I were the mayor/Governor.
    The die is already cast for Dallas/Ft. Worth.

    Anyone feeling sick will now understandably want to seek medical attention and get screened for Ebola.

    And all of this right in the middle of kids returning to school and spreading germs everywhere.

    But, if just one person with the disease walks into a facility, that person will touch the front door (if the doors aren't automatic), the front desk top, the pen to sign in, the waiting room chair, the restroom facilities ...

    ... And thereby spread the disease to those who didn't have it but were weakened by the common cold or flu they did have.

    Lock down Dallas/Ft Worth now!

    And, communicate via the media procedures each person can follow to avoid spreading the disease, such as washing hands, wearing gloves when out and about, focusing on not touching their face, wearing a mask, etc., etc., etc.
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    Re: Eighty People in Dallas Area Being Monitored for Ebola

    Quote Originally Posted by Ontologuy View Post
    It is not "paranoia" to be rightly concerned about the imminent spread of Ebola in the United States.

    As the realities I presented here attest -- http://www.debatepolitics.com/health...ight-host.html -- America is the precise melting-pot the virus needs to find the right host to mutate to airborne spread.

    But even without that pending mutation, studies in other links on the topic in this forum reveal that Ebola can remain on materials touched by a symptomatic patient for more than six days .. materials such as chairs, stair railings, kitchen cupboards, bathroom fixtures .. and classroom desks. Considering people touch their face over a thousand times a day -- which includes the entry points of mouth, nose, eyes -- the spread of Ebola even prior to it mutating to airborne is a piece of cake.

    Because it comes on looking like the flu, parents and others caring for an Ebola sufferer will be exposed .. and many will still go to work when they experience "flu" symptoms, because they can't afford to take a day off, what with the post-Great Recession under-paid reaction still harming millions of Americans.

    Sadly, there are many people .. and D.P. posters .. who are ideologically paranoid that this or that favorite politician or party will take the hit for the inevitable outbreak in the U.S., and they're downplaying the whole thing as their political paradigm deems appropriate, much like the Global Warming "debate" .. and likewise to the great detriment of Americans.

    Yes, add all these factors together, and we are ripe for a major, major health disaster here.

    The time has come to be safe, not sorry.

    Tell all your elected and appointed officials to act strongly, with very liberal quarantines, and act now, before Ebola's spread and the associated panic sets in that will cripple America's and the world's economies. Downplaying both the health and economic potential of this deadly to-those-of-all-ages disease is simply stupid, and those who do so for political-allegiance reasons are behaving most egregiously.

    A word to the wise.

    Tick tock, people.
    Look at this guy thinking he knows the probability of a virus mutating in a way that makes it airborne.

    Do you study viral mutations for a living?
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Eighty People in Dallas Area Being Monitored for Ebola

    Quote Originally Posted by radioman View Post
    Oh sh**!
    I'm heading to Hawaii for 10 days starting tomorrow.
    Hopefully, my pina colada diet will keep the virus at bay.

    Yeah, and lets hope no volcano pops off while some Hurricane rolls in why you are there. We sure wouldn't want to see that happen.....huh?

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