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Michael Dunn found guilty of 1st-degree murder in loud-music trial[W:292]

Re: Michael Dunn found guilty of 1st-degree murder in loud-music trial

His letters from jail were pretty telling.

Ok...If you say so...:shrug: He was convicted, so I guess its a moot point now right?
 
Re: Michael Dunn found guilty of 1st-degree murder in loud-music trial

Ok...If you say so...:shrug: He was convicted, so I guess its a moot point now right?

Well not really - you were saying that the guy wasn't a racist. Clearly he was.
 
Re: Michael Dunn found guilty of 1st-degree murder in loud-music trial

Well not really - you were saying that the guy wasn't a racist. Clearly he was.
:doh
His letters do not say he is a racist.
 
Re: Michael Dunn found guilty of 1st-degree murder in loud-music trial

:doh
His letters do not say he is a racist.

I am not talking to you because you cannot be reasoned with. I'd put you on ignore, but I am consistently flabbergasted by some of the things you post, and if I ignore you, I might miss some of the lulz.
 
Re: Michael Dunn found guilty of 1st-degree murder in loud-music trial

Well not really - you were saying that the guy wasn't a racist. Clearly he was.

Don't know the man, and haven't seen any jail letters from him, and I don't know his heart...Can you produce the letters, or a link to them so I can see them?
 
Re: Michael Dunn found guilty of 1st-degree murder in loud-music trial

I am not talking to you because you cannot be reasoned with. I'd put you on ignore, but I am consistently flabbergasted by some of the things you post, and if I ignore you, I might miss some of the lulz.
iLOL
Apparently you are one who can not be reasoned with.
When you make false claims of racism and don't understand that is what you have done. Something is wrong with the reasoning you are using.
 
Re: Michael Dunn found guilty of 1st-degree murder in loud-music trial

Excon,

How again did the police track him down?

This should be interesting.
Trix is for kids. (Just an FYI.)
Why do you keep asking what is already known and irrelevant?
As many times as I have participated in discussions of the evidence of this case, prior to, during, and after his last trial, you would think you would understand that I know.


And in reply to it; Big deal. He didn't get to carry through with what he intended to do. :shrug:
Your question, and by virtue of it, any point you are trying to make is irrelevant, as it changes nothing.
 
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Trix is for kids. (Just an FYI.)
Why do you keep asking what is already known and irrelevant?
As many times as I have participated in discussions of the evidence of this case, prior to, during, and after his last trial, you would think you would understand that I know.


And in reply to it; Big deal. He didn't get to carry through with what he intended to do. :shrug:
Your question, and by virtue of it, any point you are trying to make is irrelevant, as it changes nothing.

Except for the FACT that it is a big deal.

Ask the jurors if they think it is relevant that he fled the scene and did not report and needed to be tracked down based on eyewitness information.

Of course it is a big deal. Only a person trying to evade prosecution would act in such a way. And the jurors would be right to assume that.

Would you have left the scene and not immediately reported it to the police once you felt you were safe?
 
Re: Michael Dunn found guilty of 1st-degree murder in loud-music trial

Except for the FACT that it is a big deal.

Ask the jurors if they think it is relevant that he fled the scene and did not report and needed to be tracked down based on eyewitness information.

Of course it is a big deal. Only a person trying to evade prosecution would act in such a way. And the jurors would be right to assume that.

Would you have left the scene and not immediately reported it to the police once you felt you were safe?
And I'll give to you there that is a good point. Probably weighed heavily in jurors decision.
 
Re: Michael Dunn found guilty of 1st-degree murder in loud-music trial

And I'll give to you there that is a good point. Probably weighed heavily in jurors decision.

Thanks, I cannot see how it would not weigh on their minds.


Not that it matters in the case or would change the outcome...but he strikes me as one of those people who rather than mellowing with alcohol "loosening up" - he becomes more aggressive. My gut says that this would have just been a few testosterone driven exchanges if he didn't have a gun. But frankly I think the alcohol fueled his aggression. I believe carrying under the influence is a serious issue. But I am sure many would wholeheartedly disagree.;)
 
Re: Michael Dunn found guilty of 1st-degree murder in loud-music trial

Sorry, still not seeing anything overtly racist in what he says. What do you think is?

If you read the same letters I did, and still didn't see anything wrong with what he said, I'm not going to bother with posting anything else, because you won't see it anyway.

:shrug: Have a nice day. I'm off to clean my garage. :)
 
Re: Michael Dunn found guilty of 1st-degree murder in loud-music trial

Thanks, I cannot see how it would not weigh on their minds.


Not that it matters in the case or would change the outcome...but he strikes me as one of those people who rather than mellowing with alcohol "loosening up" - he becomes more aggressive. My gut says that this would have just been a few testosterone driven exchanges if he didn't have a gun. But frankly I think the alcohol fueled his aggression. I believe carrying under the influence is a serious issue. But I am sure many would wholeheartedly disagree.;)

Well, we all have things in our mind about what others may be like based on limited information, Lord knows I am guilty of the same. I also don't know that he was 'under the influence' either. He said he only had two drinks at the wedding, (although I am aware that is the standard answer whether one is drunk or not) but we just don't know that for a fact.

Like I said, I am if nothing consistent. The jury convicted, so they weighed the evidence and based on that he is guilty.

In that situation, I don't even know if I would have asked them to turn anything down...I mean hell, it's not my hearing they're ruining....The questions I would have had as a juror would have been for the investigating officers, such as why wasn't the adjacent parking lot searched? Why did Dunn leave the scene, I mean even if no one was hit, he discharged a weapon, if he thought he was right, he would have no reason to leave.

*Sigh* I don't know....
 
Re: Michael Dunn found guilty of 1st-degree murder in loud-music trial

Well, we all have things in our mind about what others may be like based on limited information, Lord knows I am guilty of the same. I also don't know that he was 'under the influence' either. He said he only had two drinks at the wedding, (although I am aware that is the standard answer whether one is drunk or not) but we just don't know that for a fact.

Like I said, I am if nothing consistent. The jury convicted, so they weighed the evidence and based on that he is guilty.

In that situation, I don't even know if I would have asked them to turn anything down...I mean hell, it's not my hearing they're ruining....The questions I would have had as a juror would have been for the investigating officers, such as why wasn't the adjacent parking lot searched? Why did Dunn leave the scene, I mean even if no one was hit, he discharged a weapon, if he thought he was right, he would have no reason to leave.

*Sigh* I don't know....

I think it was 3 or 4 drinks and a champagne toast. On top of that, they left before the even the cake was served.

Legally drunk? Maybe, maybe not. Under the influence to be certain.
 
Re: Michael Dunn found guilty of 1st-degree murder in loud-music trial

:lamo
Wrong. An innocent man will be doing time for a crime he did not commit. And the community is a lot safer with the real thug having killed.

Inflaming the passions of others is fun? Because I see right through you.

Troll

/ignore
 
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Inflaming the passions of others is fun? Because I see right through you.

Troll

/ignore

No kidding. Talk about no evidence....a dead guy is labeled a thug for playing loud music. There was no weapon (no evidence). Dead guy did nothing but play loud music AND piss of shooter. BUT!!! He's a thug. /sarcasm. Shooter kills **innocent** man, and that's a fact...but he's **innocent** and the other guy is a thug. :doh
 
Re: Michael Dunn found guilty of 1st-degree murder in loud-music trial

No kidding. Talk about no evidence....a dead guy is labeled a thug for playing loud music. There was no weapon (no evidence). Dead guy did nothing but play loud music AND piss of shooter. BUT!!! He's a thug. /sarcasm. Shooter kills **innocent** man, and that's a fact...but he's **innocent** and the other guy is a thug. :doh

Excon just enjoys being a sphincter orifice (I'll let you decipher). The really scary part is that he might actually believe the tripe he posts here. Now that would really be scary.
 
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And here are some choice excerpts:

"It's spooky how racist everyone is up here and how biased toward blacks the courts are. This jail is full of blacks and they all act like thugs," he notes. He goes on to say "This may sound a bit radical but if more people would arm themselves and kill these **** idiots when they're threatening you, eventually they may take the hint and change their behavior,"

What a racist maniac. Its clear that he doesnt like blacks and if given the opportunity would kill them all if he had the chance. This pretty much confirms he's a sociopathic racist who wanted to kill those kids because he didnt like them.
 
Re: Michael Dunn found guilty of 1st-degree murder in loud-music trial

And here are some choice excerpts:



What a racist maniac. Its clear that he doesnt like blacks and if given the opportunity would kill them all if he had the chance. This pretty much confirms he's a sociopathic racist who wanted to kill those kids because he didnt like them.

I agree. And, seeing as how it has been open season on kids in Florida lately, (see Caylee Anthony, Trayvon Martin) he thought he could do what he wanted and get away with it. I am so glad he didn't. At least the people of Florida got this one right.
 
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Except for the FACT that it is a big deal.
Except that it really isn't. D'oh!
You choose to make it a big deal when it really isn't.
Nor was he under any obligation.
Given the circumstances, and what we know of, it is irrelevant.


Ask the jurors if they think it is relevant that he fled the scene and did not report and needed to be tracked down based on eyewitness information.
How many times in this thread does it need to be said?
No one knows (that includes you, duh), or has yet provided any evidence as to why the Jury decided the way they did.

And as already said; If the Juror from the first trial is any indication, this has nothing to do with it, and has a lot to with Jurors not following the law, which is a miscarriage of Justice.


Only a person trying to evade prosecution would act in such a way.
Wrong. Only in someones cynical thoughts would they assume such.


And the jurors would be right to assume that.
Wrong again.
Jurors would be "allowed" to assume that. Not "right" for doing so.


Would you have left the scene and not immediately reported it to the police once you felt you were safe?
It depends. And that is what you seem not to be understanding. People act differently.
As was already pointed out. It was a traumatic experience, and he also had to deal with the basket case of a gf.
There was, and is nothing wrong in his intentions.





I'm not going to bother with posting anything else, because you won't see it anyway.
:doh
So you realize that he can not see what isn't there. Figures.





Inflaming the passions of others is fun? Because I see right through you.

Troll
Said the one engaging in exactly that behavior.
Figures. :doh


Excon just enjoys being a sphincter orifice (I'll let you decipher). The really scary part is that he might actually believe the tripe he posts here. Now that would really be scary.
Get a grip. This isn't about me or your incorrect and imaginative thoughts about me.

Try discussing the evidence.





No kidding. Talk about no evidence....
Then debate the actual evidence.

a dead guy is labeled a thug for playing loud music.
Stop being dishonest. No one here labeled him a thug for playing loud music.
His threats against Dunn's life and exhibited desire to carry through with his threats by getting out of the vehicle to carry through with those threats made him a thug. And that is what the evidence says. There was absolutely no reason to get out of the vehicle like his friend Leland testified to his doing. Yeah, he is a thug for acting like one.


There was no weapon (no evidence).
Wrong. There is evidence, as testified to.
One not being found later does not mean that there was none, especially given the circumstances and the suspicious activity of Davis's friends.

Now Davis's friends testified that he had his phone in his hand.
If the Police can be cleared for shooting a person because they were in fear for their life because they thought a phone in a persons hand was a gun, than so should Dunn.


Dead guy did nothing but play loud music AND piss of shooter.
Wrong.
The only evidence provided showed it was Davis who was pissed off. Not Dunn.


Shooter kills **innocent** man, and that's a fact...but he's **innocent** and the other guy is a thug. :doh
Shooter did not kill an **innocent** person. That person was the one who was pissed and started threatening Dunn's life. Dunn's reaction was out of fear.





And here are some choice excerpts:

"It's spooky how racist everyone is up here and how biased toward blacks the courts are. This jail is full of blacks and they all act like thugs," he notes. He goes on to say "This may sound a bit radical but if more people would arm themselves and kill these **** idiots when they're threatening you, eventually they may take the hint and change their behavior,"

What a racist maniac. Its clear that he doesnt like blacks and if given the opportunity would kill them all if he had the chance. This pretty much confirms he's a sociopathic racist who wanted to kill those kids because he didnt like them.
Clearly you do not know what the term racist means. And your confirmation
There is nothing racist in there.
You are seeing what you want to see, not what is there.

Nothing there suggest that he thinks his race is superior to that of others races. Nothing.

He speaks to the fact that the jail is full of blacks (Do you doubt that it was?), and goes on to speak to their actions as being thugs. Do you really doubt that those in a jail (a known criminal element of society) aren't acting like thugs? That is not speaking to all blacks, is it? Of course it isn't.
He speaks to such as idiots and killing them when they threaten you. That is not speaking to all blacks, is it? Of course it isn't, as it speaks specifically to the idiots who threaten you.

Not once did he indicate that his race was better.
I am sure that like him, you also have no use for such black criminal thugs, which is not racism, but a prejudice against some folks for the way they act.
 
Re: Michael Dunn found guilty of 1st-degree murder in loud-music trial

I think it was 3 or 4 drinks and a champagne toast. On top of that, they left before the even the cake was served.

Legally drunk? Maybe, maybe not. Under the influence to be certain.


Possibly, but the greater thing for me, is that he left. Had he waited for police, and been able to be evaluated, it might have turned out better for him...Anyway, trial done...Now we can find the next white guy to crucify.
 
Re: Michael Dunn found guilty of 1st-degree murder in loud-music trial

Possibly, but the greater thing for me, is that he left. Had he waited for police, and been able to be evaluated, it might have turned out better for him...Anyway, trial done...Now we can find the next white guy to crucify.
I agree. He left. Much bigger deal. If he was in fear for his life, he would have reported to the police.

What does his being white have to do with his conviction?

He shot into a car with 10 rounds. He fled the scene. Wouldn't that be wrong for a black guy to do? Wouldn't he be crucified?

Your "white guy to crucify" sounds like he didn't deserve to be prosecuted. Is that what you are saying?
 
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