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Michael Dunn found guilty of 1st-degree murder in loud-music trial[W:292]

Re: Michael Dunn found guilty of 1st-degree murder in loud-music trial

PoS said:
Dunn is the only one claiming he was threatened- nobody else backs him up and the evidence also points against that.
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That he was threatening Dunn was backed up.


PoS said:
Dunn's own girlfriend (who was there) testified against him.
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:naughty
Your spin doesn't fly.
She testified as to what she recalled.


PoS said:
Dunn also ran away from the scene and made no mention of the shooting to anyone or called the authorities.
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Normal behavior of one trying to get away from a violent thug.


PoS said:
Sorry, but the man is guilty- its as plain as day.
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[sarc] Suuuuuuuuuuuurrrrrrreeeee! That is why the first Jury was hung on the charge, because it is plain as day. Not! [/sarc]
 
Re: Michael Dunn found guilty of 1st-degree murder in loud-music trial

Excon said:
Can your storefront bs.
Secondly; You do not know that.:doh One or a few may have believed him but misapplied the law, caved into pressure, etc...
You just don't know.
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:lol: :lol:
 
Re: Michael Dunn found guilty of 1st-degree murder in loud-music trial

Excon said:
Stop playing games.
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The game is over and you lost. Move on people, there is nothing here to discuss.
 
Re: Michael Dunn found guilty of 1st-degree murder in loud-music trial

Crosscheck said:
The game is over and you lost. Move on people, there is nothing here to discuss.
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Is that what it is about for you? Figures.

Let me help you out a bit, I didn't lose a darn thing. Not even a wink of sleep. iLOL :lamo
 
Re: Michael Dunn found guilty of 1st-degree murder in loud-music trial

Lutherf said:
What he did is completely out of the ordinary to begin with.
Most people don't need to be discouraged from doing it.
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Correct, but we do have a few people in the USA who think that they can impose their music tastes on others by putting a few bullets in them.
 
Re: Michael Dunn found guilty of 1st-degree murder in loud-music trial

Excon said:
Is that what it is about for you? Figures.

Let me help you out a bit, I didn't lose a darn thing. Not even a wink of sleep. iLOL :lamo
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This is killing you, isn't it?
Goodnight.
 
Re: Michael Dunn found guilty of 1st-degree murder in loud-music trial

Crosscheck said:
This is killing you, isn't it?
Goodnight.
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:doh No?
But apparently a person who has a different opinion than you do is killing you. :lamo
 
Re: Michael Dunn found guilty of 1st-degree murder in loud-music trial

Excon said:
And? You think don't think people know what being found guilty means?
That's odd.


And just like in case where a not guilty verdict is returned and folks say (That doesn't mean he didn't do it.)
The same applies here.
Being found guilty doesn't mean he did it.
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You can believe that nonsense all you want. But that young man was threatening to kill and pointed an object at him that he believed was a gun.
Under those circumstances that young man deserved what he got.




While you obvious agree with the verdict, your opinion about it is wrong.
It is a sad day for him, just like I stated.




Because he saw the person point something at him which he thought was a gun and was accompanied by threats to kill.
His fear was real and reasonable given the circumstances.

Not to mention that there was no real premeditation.




He didn't kill anyone because of any dissing.
The thug threatened to kill him and pointing an object that appeared to be a gun at him.
Anybody should be entitled to fire under those circumstances.




:lamo
No he didn't. He should have walked.




The justice system worked it's course. The verdict was wrong.




If that is the way you want to look at it then, the good news from all of this is the thug who was threatening his life was killed. :lamo




:doh
Then you do not know what malice aforethought means.
He shot in fear of his life in defense of himself. That is reaction to a threat, not malice or premeditation.




It was a case of self defense.
The individual threatened to kill him and pointed something at him which appeared to be a gun.
Anybody should be entitled to fire under those circumstances.
Funny thing here is that the tripod/stand was found under the seat yet nobody suggested that a leg of that is what he could have pointed at him through the window.




See answer below.


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Had his firing been determined to have been justified this time around, those previous conviction stood a good change at being overturned.

You can't tell a person they are justified in shooting at a perceived threat only to turn around and hold them culpable for other crimes while justly shooting at that very threat.

Alas, "had" is neither here nor there now.
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Whatever.

It does mean that he's going to be locked up for a long time. :roll:
 
Re: Michael Dunn found guilty of 1st-degree murder in loud-music trial

shrubnose said:
Whatever.

It does mean that he's going to be locked up for a long time. :roll:
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:shrug: Never said it didn't.
 
Re: Michael Dunn found guilty of 1st-degree murder in loud-music trial

upsideguy said:
I am beginning to see a pattern....
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Yes, your pattern. Anything else is just your imagination.
 
Re: Michael Dunn found guilty of 1st-degree murder in loud-music trial

Excon said:
That he was threatening Dunn was backed up.
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Not a single piece of evidence or testimony backs Dunn's views up. You lose.

Your spin doesn't fly.
She testified as to what she recalled.
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And her testimony contradicted Dunn's. :lamo

Normal behavior of one trying to get away from a violent thug.
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So unarmed black teens with loud music are violent thugs? Is this what passes as excuses in stormfront now?

Suuuuuuuuuuuurrrrrrreeeee! That is why the first Jury was hung on the charge, because it is plain as day. Not!
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Hung juries can happen. But the retrial for the murder 1 charge came through. Too bad you didnt like it.
 
Re: Michael Dunn found guilty of 1st-degree murder in loud-music trial

PoS said:
Not a single piece of evidence or testimony backs Dunn's views up. You lose.
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Holy ****. You really dont know the evidence do you" How sad.
Well guess what. You are wrong, just as you were wrong before.

Do you honestly think the person didn't threaten him and then get out to carry through with the threat?
If so, why the heck was he getting out of the vehicle? To give Dunn a kiss? :doh


PoS said:
And her testimony contradicted Dunn's.
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A portion did. She did not remember being told. That does not mean she testified against. Duh!


PoS said:
So unarmed black teens with loud music are violent thugs?
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Just more dishonesty from you.
Figures.

Did I say making violent threats making him a thug, or did I say playing loud music?
Stop with your dishonesty.


PoS said:
Is this what passes as excuses in stormfront now?
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And again, can your stormfront comments. They do not belong here.


PoS said:
Hung juries can happen. But the retrial for the murder 1 charge came through. Too bad you didnt like it.
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You are speaking nonsense again.
A conviction on a retrial is no great feat, as that is what usually happens. Duh!
But you do not know the reasons why at this point. So speaking as if you do is just more dishonesty.
As for "like"? Speak to your own, as you do not known mine.
 
Re: Michael Dunn found guilty of 1st-degree murder in loud-music trial

Buck Ewer said:
I've been seeing it since the Zimmerman case.
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And what you think you are seeing is nothing more than your imagination.
Discuss the topic and not me.
 
Re: Michael Dunn found guilty of 1st-degree murder in loud-music trial

Excon said:
And? You think don't think people know what being found guilty means?
That's odd.


And just like in case where a not guilty verdict is returned and folks say (That doesn't mean he didn't do it.)
The same applies here. Being found guilty doesn't mean he did it.



You can believe that nonsense all you want. But that young man was threatening to kill and pointed an object at him that he believed was a gun.
Under those circumstances that young man deserved what he got.




While you obvious agree with the verdict, your opinion about it is wrong.
It is a sad day for him, just like I stated.




Because he saw the person point something at him which he thought was a gun and was accompanied by threats to kill.
His fear was real and reasonable given the circumstances.

Not to mention that there was no real premeditation.




He didn't kill anyone because of any dissing.
The thug threatened to kill him and pointing an object that appeared to be a gun at him.
Anybody should be entitled to fire under those circumstances.




:lamo
No he didn't. He should have walked.




The justice system worked it's course. The verdict was wrong.




If that is the way you want to look at it then, the good news from all of this is the thug who was threatening his life was killed. :lamo




:doh
Then you do not know what malice aforethought means.
He shot in fear of his life in defense of himself. That is reaction to a threat, not malice or premeditation.




It was a case of self defense.
The individual threatened to kill him and pointed something at him which appeared to be a gun.
Anybody should be entitled to fire under those circumstances.
Funny thing here is that the tripod/stand was found under the seat yet nobody suggested that a leg of that is what he could have pointed at him through the window.




See answer below.


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Had his firing been determined to have been justified this time around, those previous conviction stood a good change at being overturned.

You can't tell a person they are justified in shooting at a perceived threat only to turn around and hold them culpable for other crimes while justly shooting at that very threat.

Alas, "had" is neither here nor there now.
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Obviously it was not a case of self defence. That is unless you have witnesses and/or evidence other than his word? You don't? Go figure. How dare a white man be convicted of shooting a "thug" for disrespecting his orders to turn down the music.

Zimmerman was found not guilty because he was battered and legitimately defended himself. This guy just like the other idiot shooting blindly into his garage overstepped the bounds of self defence to cold blooded murder.

Of course people like you think if some nigga looks at a white person the wrong way it's obviously justified self defence. No surprises here.
 
Re: Michael Dunn found guilty of 1st-degree murder in loud-music trial

Excon said:
:lamo
Wrong. An innocent man will be doing time for a crime he did not commit. And the community is a lot safer with the real thug having killed.
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You could be right. I wonder? How is the weather in fantasy land?
 
Re: Michael Dunn found guilty of 1st-degree murder in loud-music trial

Excon said:
And what you think you are seeing is nothing more than your imagination.
Discuss the topic and not me.
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WTF are you talking about?
The pattern I was talking about is older white guys shooting un-armed black teens and then coming up with half baked self defense claims to justify their murders.
What is it about you that you think I was imagining?
Your self important paranoia is quite revealing...:lamo
 
Re: Michael Dunn found guilty of 1st-degree murder in loud-music trial

Black Dog said:
You could be right. I wonder? How is the weather in fantasy land?
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There seems to be a stormfront moving in with a good chance of paranoid racist flurries throughout the region by dawn.
 
Re: Michael Dunn found guilty of 1st-degree murder in loud-music trial

Black Dog said:
Obviously it was not a case of self defence.
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Yeah it was.


Black Dog said:
That is unless you have witnesses and/or evidence other than his word?
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Don't need anything other than his word. Funny you think it does.


Black Dog said:
How dare a white man be convicted of shooting a "thug" for disrespecting his orders to turn down the music.
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Absurd nonsense. Especially as we know it wasn't over music but a threat.


Black Dog said:
Zimmerman was found not guilty because he was battered and legitimately defended himself. This guy just like the other idiot shooting blindly into his garage overstepped the bounds of self defence to cold blooded murder.
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Irrelevant to this topic.


Black Dog said:
Of course people like you think if some nigga looks at a white person the wrong way it's obviously justified self defence. No surprises here.
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:doh :lamo More dishonesty. Figures.
You clearly have no clue as to what you say.


Black Dog said:
You could be right. I wonder? How is the weather in fantasy land?
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Why don't you tell us, as you are the only one who resides there with those racist fantasies you speak of.





Buck Ewer said:
WTF are you talking about?
The pattern I was talking about is older white guys shooting un-armed black teens and then coming up with half baked self defense claims to justify their murders.
What is it about you that you think I was imagining?
Your self important paranoia is quite revealing...:lamo
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More dishonesty. Figures.
 
Re: Michael Dunn found guilty of 1st-degree murder in loud-music trial

Excon said:
Yeah it was.


Don't need anything other than his word. Funny you think it does.


Absurd nonsense. Especially as we know it wasn't over music but a threat.


Irrelevant to this topic.


:doh :lamo More dishonesty. Figures.
You clearly have no clue as to what you say.


Why don't you tell us, as you are the only one who resides there with those racist fantasies you speak of.





More dishonesty. Figures.
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Yea and my name is gullible, lol.
 
Re: Michael Dunn found guilty of 1st-degree murder in loud-music trial

PoS said:
Dunn deserved the chair for what he did.
You cant kill people just because their music is too loud for you
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Some people think that any white person should be able to kill any black person for no good reason and walk away smelling like a rose.

That's not the way that justice is supposed to work in the USA.



"If you do the crime, be prepared to do the time."
 
Re: Michael Dunn found guilty of 1st-degree murder in loud-music trial

Excon said:
It was a case of self defense.
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Clearly it was not, or he would not have been convicted of first degree murder.

This was a case of a guy who was disrespected, got angry, killed a teenager because of it, and tried to claim self defense to keep himself out of prison. Fortunately it didn't work.
 
Re: Michael Dunn found guilty of 1st-degree murder in loud-music trial

Excon said:
No evidence showed he wasn't in fear.
And he certainly was as demonstrated by grab his firearm in self-defense.
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You're arguing in circles here. You're saying that he was justified in getting his gun to shoot the kid because he feared for his life. And the evidence that he feared for his life was the fact that he grabbed his gun so he could shoot the kid.
 
Re: Michael Dunn found guilty of 1st-degree murder in loud-music trial

Excon said:
:lamo
Yeah I can, because he is. Wrongfully charged and wrongfully convicted.
Still innocent.
That does happen in our justice system. Or didn't you know that?

And the real thug died.
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You are the only person to say this murderer is innocent. Scary how the internet can give you a glimpse into someone's mind that is similar to being deranged. I hope others are safe around you. Normal people don't think like that, and I really hope you are just trolling.
 
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