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    Re: Michael Dunn found guilty of 1st-degree murder in loud-music trial

    Quote Originally Posted by lifeisshort View Post
    Can you site a case where someone was convicted of premeditated murder that occurred in less than a second? Not being a smart ass it's an honest question. I just don't think it happens real world.
    I think it is there in theory, as far as proving it in a court of law, that now is a whole other question. FWIW, I have a real problem with Dunn leaving the scene, and think that did more to convict him than any racial motive could have.
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    Re: Michael Dunn found guilty of 1st-degree murder in loud-music trial

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    I think it is there in theory, as far as proving it in a court of law, that now is a whole other question. FWIW, I have a real problem with Dunn leaving the scene, and think that did more to convict him than any racial motive could have.
    I would have to agree. As a juror I would think that specific issue would be tough to get around - leaving the scene and not reporting...needing to be tracked down. It would make me weigh other things he said with a grain of salt.

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    Re: Michael Dunn found guilty of 1st-degree murder in loud-music trial

    Quote Originally Posted by lifeisshort View Post
    Can you site a case where someone was convicted of premeditated murder that occurred in less than a second? Not being a smart ass it's an honest question. I just don't think it happens real world.
    Have never really understood why there should be a difference between premeditated murder and murder. The victim is dead in both situations.

    It is the same way with assault hate crimes. Do you really even need a classification of hate crime. Either way you hate the victim enough to hurt him.

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    Re: Michael Dunn found guilty of 1st-degree murder in loud-music trial

    Quote Originally Posted by Crosscheck View Post
    Have never really understood why there should be a difference between premeditated murder and murder. The victim is dead in both situations.

    It is the same way with assault hate crimes. Do you really even need a classification of hate crime. Either way you hate the victim enough to hurt him.
    Hell, I never understood the difference between attempted murder and murder. One has a dead victim. The other has a living victim scared ****less that the perp will come back to finish the job.

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    Re: Michael Dunn found guilty of 1st-degree murder in loud-music trial

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    Wrong..again!

    Use the search option and you will see Ex posting strictly on law/evidence and not on race, religion or any other emotional bs factor ..
    It is amazing that some have to be told that.
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    Re: Michael Dunn found guilty of 1st-degree murder in loud-music trial

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    When you make false claims of racism and don't understand that is what you have done. Something is wrong with the reasoning you are using.
    Wrong. The claim was not false ...Dunn was an obvious racist and no doubt still is.

    Wrong again. Those claims are false. Just as yours are.


    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post

    His letters do not say he is a racist.
    Wrong ...They did.
    Wrong again.
    Nothing in his letters says he is a racist. Nothing.
    You are seeing what you want to see, not what is there.

    Nothing there suggest that he thinks his race is superior to that of others races. Nothing.

    He speaks to the fact that the jail is full of blacks (Do you doubt that it was?), and goes on to speak to their actions as being thugs. Do you really doubt that those in a jail (a known criminal element of society) aren't acting like thugs? That is not speaking to all blacks, is it? Of course it isn't.
    He speaks to such as idiots and killing them when they threaten you. That is not speaking to all blacks, is it? Of course it isn't, as it speaks specifically to the idiots who threaten you.

    Not once did he indicate that his race was better.
    I am sure that like him, you also have no use for such black criminal thugs, which is not racism, but a prejudice against some folks for the way they act.
    So all you and others like you are doing is spouting nonsense.


    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    What Dunn "intended to do" that night was to murder ALL the kids in that Durango with the loud music.

    Wrong again. His intent is what he stated it to be. No evidence showed otherwise.
    And he was defending himself from a threat. Not shooting "at" the others.


    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    He has defended EVERY murderer where a white guy murdered a black un-armrd teen that has come along.
    Let me remind you again Buck, this isn't about me. How is it that you do not understand that?

    Regardless, you are again letting your imagination run wild, speaking utter nonsense and making false claims.
    Dunn is the only one who has been convicted of murder that I have defended because the evidence says he acted in self-defense.


    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    In future cases we can be sure what side he will take even before the crimes are committed.
    You again are speaking nonsense.
    If there is another case where it is clear the person acted in self-defese, regardless of color, I will take the side of the person who acted in such a manner.

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    His record of taking the side of racist murderers of un-armed teens is perfect.
    Your convoluted thoughts aside;


    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    He found nothing racist in Dunn's letters from jail.
    Because there is nothing racist in them.
    And you have repeatedly and utterly failed to show anything racist in them.





    Quote Originally Posted by PoS View Post
    Oh so a lunatic who thinks every black person that talks back should be killed isnt a racist?
    You are again speaking nonsense, as that is not what he said.


    Quote Originally Posted by PoS View Post
    Funny how he didnt even say anything about whites being thugs but merely blacks
    Funny? Obviously you do not understand the environment he was in, which as he said, was full of blacks.
    So why would he mention white folks? Especially if the were none where he was at acting like thugs? Huh?
    Back to you not understanding the environment. This was a jail. Pretrial. You know, a place where the guests are usually separated and grouped together according to the severity of the crime charged, crime of violence vs property crime.

    So you thinking his failure to mention whites as significant, is actually absurd.


    Quote Originally Posted by PoS View Post
    but merely blacks and he should get to kill them all...
    And again, that isn't what he said.


    Quote Originally Posted by PoS View Post
    Are you Dunn's brother or something? Because I cant believe you are defending this murderer.

    And I can't believe that people can't see past their own racially biased viewpoints, yet here you all are.
    A person who acted in self defense and wrongfully convicted of murder, does not a murderer make.


    Quote Originally Posted by PoS View Post
    Oh wait, you also indicated that all jails are full of blacks too- I guess you think no white, hispanic or asian guy ever goes to jail right?
    There is that bias raising it's head again.
    Get a grip.
    No one said or held forth any such thing.
    Show that there was anyone else where Dunn was that were acting like idiots and thugs like he mentioned.
    If you can't, then all you are left with is your biased imagination.





    Quote Originally Posted by JumpinJack View Post
    I think he followed them to shoot them, after they took off in their car.
    Followed them?
    Are you even speaking of the same case?





    Quote Originally Posted by Black Dog View Post
    He had enough time to reach into his glove compartment and shoot 9 to 10 shots into the other vehicle.
    That speaks to responding in self defense to a threat, not to premeditation.
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    Re: Michael Dunn found guilty of 1st-degree murder in loud-music trial

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    That speaks to responding in self defense to a threat, not to premeditation.
    Responding to a threat does not include driving away and ordering pizza. So the jury decided it was premeditated, and rightly so.
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    Re: Michael Dunn found guilty of 1st-degree murder in loud-music trial

    Quote Originally Posted by Black Dog View Post
    Responding to a threat does not include driving away and ordering pizza. So the jury decided it was premeditated, and rightly so.
    The premeditated thing is elusive. He was guilty of murder and attempted murder of the other 3 teens.

    Dunn and his little flock of morons can cry all they want but this bastard is in lockup for life.

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    Re: Michael Dunn found guilty of 1st-degree murder in loud-music trial

    Quote Originally Posted by Black Dog View Post
    Responding to a threat does not include driving away and ordering pizza. So the jury decided it was premeditated, and rightly so.

    Yes driving away is just one way to respond to a threat.
    And the pizza was for the gf. You know, the emotionally unstable one he was concerned for and had to deal with.
    Duh!
    And we know what the jury found, and they were wrong by the evidence.
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    Re: Michael Dunn found guilty of 1st-degree murder in loud-music trial

    Quote Originally Posted by Crosscheck View Post
    The premeditated thing is elusive. He was guilty of murder and attempted murder of the other 3 teens.

    Dunn and his little flock of morons can cry all they want but this bastard is in lockup for life.

    You seem to represent this flocking quite well.

    We are not discussing what the jury found. We are discussing the evidence.
    How many time does that need to be said?
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