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    Re: Michael Dunn found guilty of 1st-degree murder in loud-music trial

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    Of course you can, and doing so and holding it against him when he had no obligation, is absurd.


    You keep saying failure which really isn't true. It is just you imparting more irrelevant meaning to suggest he is guilty.
    He intended to do so, and was beaten to the punch by the person he was going to call, calling him.
    He still voluntarily submitted and talked. Unwise of him to do, but he did do it.


    You think?
    Reasonable people act in all kind of ways. Especially after traumatic experiences.
    Either you understand that or you don't.


    Bs! That is nothing but you imparting more irrelevant biased bs, because you want him to be guilty and therefore want his actions to suggest guilt, when they really don't.


    And so will I. At least mine is grounded in reality and evidence. Not in made up bs to purposely to suggest guilty.


    You give yourself too much credit.
    That fact of the matter is that people think he is guilty for various of reasons.
    Much of it has to do with the racial makeup the individuals, not reality.
    And those wanting him to be guilty would agree with whatever they think suggests he is.
    The fact is that against the odds he was not found guilty the first time around. That means reasonable people can disagree as to what the evidence says.
    The second time around the odds are even more against the accused.
    That is the system, and it surely doesn't mean he did what he was found guilty of.


    No, the reality is that he acted in self defense against a person who was acting as a dangerous thug.
    No credible evidence exists to say he didn't.
    Your "reality" does not match up with two jury's conclusions.

    They found no self defense. They found a murderer.

    In real life, most gun rights advocates I know of do not support his actions.

    I am curious how most gun rights advocates view his actions.

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    Re: Michael Dunn found guilty of 1st-degree murder in loud-music trial

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    I see you hadn't bothered to read the thread.
    Had you, you would have known his actions, by the evidence, are what made made him a thug.
    A person who is making threats against your life, intimates he has the ability to carry through with that threat, and is then gets out of the vehicle to carry through with that threat, is a thug.
    Sorry you don't realize that.


    So in other words the story that the offender who has been convicted of not just murder... but first degree murder tells is absolutely true even though no evidence at all supports it?



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    Re: Michael Dunn found guilty of 1st-degree murder in loud-music trial

    Quote Originally Posted by Black Dog View Post
    So in other words the story that the offender who has been convicted of not just murder... but first degree murder tells is absolutely true even though no evidence at all supports it?
    There is no credible evidence that says his account isn't true.
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    Re: Michael Dunn found guilty of 1st-degree murder in loud-music trial

    Quote Originally Posted by year2late View Post
    Your "reality" does not match up with two jury's conclusions.

    They found no self defense. They found a murderer.
    Wrong.
    We are not talking about what the decision of the Jury, we all know what it was, just as we all know Juries make mistakes.
    We are talking about the evidence. At there is no credible evidence that says his account is false.

    And some members of the first Jury don't disagree with me as to the charge against Davis, which is specifically what we are talking about. Which in all reality, made their finding on the other charges incorrect and overturnable.
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    Re: Michael Dunn found guilty of 1st-degree murder in loud-music trial

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    Wrong.
    We are not talking about what the decision of the Jury, we all know what it was, just as we all know Juries make mistakes.
    We are talking about the evidence. At there is no credible evidence that says his account is false.

    And some members of the first Jury don't disagree with me as to the charge against Davis, which is specifically what we are talking about. Which in all reality, made their finding on the other charges incorrect and overturnable.
    There is no evidence that Dunn's lies were the truth. There was no gun which means no evidence.

    There is the evidence of a dead teen, bullet ridden car, his running before police came, and the eye witnesses of the other passengers. Even Dunn's fiance wouldn't lie for him.

    Learn the evidence.

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    Re: Michael Dunn found guilty of 1st-degree murder in loud-music trial

    Quote Originally Posted by Crosscheck View Post
    There is no evidence that Dunn's lies were the truth.

    That isn't how it works.
    No credible evidence exists to show they were lies.


    Quote Originally Posted by Crosscheck View Post
    There was no gun which means no evidence.
    And because of the evidence in toto, doesn't mean there wasn't a gun.
    Which also doesn't mean that Davis didn't threaten him, intimate the ability to carry through with that threat and then proceed to get out of the vehicle to do so.
    Learn the evidence.


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    There is the evidence of a dead teen, bullet ridden car, his running before police came,

    None of that says his account isn't true. Duh!


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    and the eye witnesses of the other passengers.
    I see you have already forgotten the lies they got caught telling. Figures.
    That makes them not credible.


    Quote Originally Posted by Crosscheck View Post
    Even Dunn's fiance wouldn't lie for him.

    There is that bs spin again.
    She wasn't asked to lie.
    And she can not testify to that which she doesn't remember.
    And as we all saw during the first trial, she was not all there and emotionally unstable.
    It is no wonder why she doesn't remember all that was discussed.


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    Learn the evidence.
    That is something you clearly have shown not to know. So yes, do learn it.
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    Re: Michael Dunn found guilty of 1st-degree murder in loud-music trial

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    There is no credible evidence that says his account isn't true.
    Dunn got in a heated argument with Davis and three other teenagers in an SUV over the volume of the music they were playing, an argument that ended with Dunn firing 10 shots at their vehicle, according to prosecutors. Dunn claimed he fired only after one of the passengers flashed a gun, though police found no evidence to substantiate that claim. - Michael Dunn found guilty of murdering teen over loud music - The Week gun, nothing that even looked like a gun. No gun or anything that looked like a gun found in the path of the vehicles escape.

    "you had a number of witnesses that really corroborated the state's theory that this was not self-defense," Sheaffer said. - Michael Dunn found guilty of murder in loud-music shooting trial - Orlando Sentinel

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    Re: Michael Dunn found guilty of 1st-degree murder in loud-music trial

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    You said the shooter was innocent, thereby claiming the shooting was justified.

    Because the victim was a "thug."

    Which totally doesn't mean "black and ornery."
    The word "thug" is racist code for nigger.
    That is well understood in modern parlance.

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    Re: Michael Dunn found guilty of 1st-degree murder in loud-music trial

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    Fleeing from dangerous people is normal.
    Yes fleeing a murder scene is normal for murderer to do ...
    ...just ask OJ...

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    Re: Michael Dunn found guilty of 1st-degree murder in loud-music trial

    Quote Originally Posted by Black Dog View Post
    Dunn got in a heated argument with Davis and three other teenagers in an SUV over the volume of the music they were playing, an argument that ended with Dunn firing 10 shots at their vehicle, according to prosecutors. Dunn claimed he fired only after one of the passengers flashed a gun, though police found no evidence to substantiate that claim. - Michael Dunn found guilty of murdering teen over loud music - The Week gun, nothing that even looked like a gun. No gun or anything that looked like a gun found in the path of the vehicles escape.

    "you had a number of witnesses that really corroborated the state's theory that this was not self-defense," Sheaffer said. - Michael Dunn found guilty of murder in loud-music shooting trial - Orlando Sentinel
    And?
    And?
    Why are you not paying attention to the evidence?
    Davis's friends drove away, got out of the vehicle and could have gotten rid of it when they did.
    The Driver at that point in time called his aunt who came into in the immediate area with his cousin.

    And the police did not search that area until several days later?
    That leaves the possibility that there was a gun. Do you really not understand that? Duh!

    And you seem not to have understood the previous comments about the tripod either.
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