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    Re: Michael Dunn found guilty of 1st-degree murder in loud-music trial

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    No. He ACTUALLY believes that they were armed and got rid of it. He actually believes this. Because the defendant ALONE said they might have.
    You mean the defendant that fled the scene and failed to report the shooting in a timely manner? That guy?

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    Re: Michael Dunn found guilty of 1st-degree murder in loud-music trial

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    You mean the defendant that fled the scene and failed to report the shooting in a timely manner? That guy?
    I think that is the one. You know... the guy whose word is gold and outweighs all evidence.
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    Re: Michael Dunn found guilty of 1st-degree murder in loud-music trial

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    Again, they had more than enough time to get rid of it when they drove away and got out.

    And the fact that there was a tripod under the seat could very well be what he used to intimate the threat of a gun.
    Perhaps if he had reported the incident right away, they would have known to look for the pink elephant gun.

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    Re: Michael Dunn found guilty of 1st-degree murder in loud-music trial

    Quote Originally Posted by year2late View Post
    Perhaps if he had reported the incident right away, they would have known to look for the pink elephant gun.
    He couldn't. He was under such fear of being tracked down by the "real thugs" that he couldn't fathom using a phone and had to drown his fear in beer and pizza at a hotel room.
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    Re: Michael Dunn found guilty of 1st-degree murder in loud-music trial

    Quote Originally Posted by year2late View Post
    So, define thug?
    WTF? For the purposes of this topic I already did.
    What about his actions of threatening to kill Dunn, along with an intimated ability to do so, coupled with his getting out to carry through with the threat, do you not understand?


    Quote Originally Posted by year2late View Post
    What you have is a black teen playing loud music
    Which has nothing to do with why Dunn shot at him.


    Quote Originally Posted by year2late View Post
    with no physical evidence of a gun.
    Lack of finding a gun (which they had ample opportunity to ditch when the drove away), doesn't mean there was no gun involved.
    Especially as the cops didn't bother to look for several days after it was reported. Which is a very important point.Especially as the driver called his aunt who was in the area with his cousin.


    In addition, as I keep pointing out, the tripod under the seat may have been what Davis used. Either to purposely intimate the threat of a gun, or to just emphasize the threat he made.
    And if that is what he did, that makes Dunn's response just as reasonable had it been an actual gun.


    Quote Originally Posted by year2late View Post
    The only "evidence" of a gun comes from the guy who shot the teen,
    And?
    The possibility that a gun existed still exists and as such, there is no evidence to doubt it.

    Unless there is some underlying mental health issue, which there is none in this case, people just don't go around shooting others for the hell of it.
    Responding to an actual threat is the norm. Not the exception.
    Dunn was responding and there is no evidence to counter that.


    Quote Originally Posted by year2late View Post
    fled the seen and did not wish to report the incident in a timely manner.

    Funny that you trust the killer with that fled the scene.
    Funny how you think saying he is a killer matters one bit.
    Especially as no credible evidence shows he wasn't acting in self defense.

    Funny that you do not understand that all folks do not act the same way.
    Fleeing from dangerous people is normal.

    As for not in a timely manner? BS. You do not determine what is or isn't a timely manner. Nor do you get to hold him responsible for something he is not required to do.
    He stated his concerns as to why he left and what he was thinking in regards to contacting the authorities and they are all valid.

    All you are doing is making **** up to not accept his account, and that just doesn't fly. Nor is it evidence that his account isn't true.

    All this is, is you making up reason not to believe his account.
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    Re: Michael Dunn found guilty of 1st-degree murder in loud-music trial

    Quote Originally Posted by year2late View Post
    Perhaps if he had reported the incident right away, they would have known to look for the pink elephant gun.
    That, sans your absurdly ridiculous "pink elephant" characterization, is the only valid thing you have said so far.

    Had that been done and one not found, the defense could have then focused on the tripod.
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    Re: Michael Dunn found guilty of 1st-degree murder in loud-music trial

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    That, sans your absurdly ridiculous "pink elephant" characterization, is the only valid thing you have said so far.

    Had that been done and one not found, the defense could have then focused on the tripod.
    And why do you think he failed to report the incident when it happened?

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    Re: Michael Dunn found guilty of 1st-degree murder in loud-music trial

    Quote Originally Posted by year2late View Post
    And why do you think he failed to report the incident when it happened?

    What you ask is absurd, as it is going in circles.
    So again.
    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    Fleeing from dangerous people is normal.

    As for not in a timely manner? BS. You do not determine what is or isn't a timely manner. Nor do you get to hold him responsible for something he is not required to do.
    He stated his concerns as to why he left and what he was thinking in regards to contacting the authorities and they are all valid.





    By poweRob ~ Your claims are completely absurd. Stop being absurd.

    It was your claims that were absurd, as were shown to be.
    You didn't even know the evidence or understand what tangible meant. You absurdly thought it meant a person's testimony. D'oh!

    Yeah, your claims are what is absurd.
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    Re: Michael Dunn found guilty of 1st-degree murder in loud-music trial

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post

    Fleeing from dangerous people is normal.

    As for not in a timely manner? BS. You do not determine what is or isn't a timely manner. Nor do you get to hold him responsible for something he is not required to do.
    He stated his concerns as to why he left and what he was thinking in regards to contacting the authorities and they are all valid
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    Fleeing is normal.

    And yes, I can make a personal judgment as to what is a timely manner. I have to wonder how much the failure to report weighed on the minds of the jurors of both trials. I think any reasonable person would report to the police indiviuals (thugs) that were so dangerous that you discharged your weapon in their direction multiple times.

    IF he truly thought there were dangerous individuals complete with shotgun and attitude that sufficiently threatened him....by NOT informing police immediately he endangered the entire community.

    But, hell yes, I will make a personal judgment! And my guess is that most of the law abiding citizens in this country will agree with me.



    But the reality is...there was no danger except from the guy who murdered the young man.

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    Re: Michael Dunn found guilty of 1st-degree murder in loud-music trial

    Quote Originally Posted by year2late View Post
    And yes, I can make a personal judgment as to what is a timely manner.
    Of course you can, and doing so and holding it against him when he had no obligation, is absurd.


    Quote Originally Posted by year2late View Post
    I have to wonder how much the failure to report weighed on the minds of the jurors of both trials.
    You keep saying failure which really isn't true. It is just you imparting more irrelevant meaning to suggest he is guilty.
    He intended to do so, and was beaten to the punch by the person he was going to call, calling him.
    He still voluntarily submitted and talked. Unwise of him to do, but he did do it.


    Quote Originally Posted by year2late View Post
    I think any reasonable person would report to the police indiviuals (thugs) that were so dangerous that you discharged your weapon in their direction multiple times.
    You think?
    Reasonable people act in all kind of ways. Especially after traumatic experiences.
    Either you understand that or you don't.


    Quote Originally Posted by year2late View Post
    IF he truly thought there were dangerous individuals complete with shotgun and attitude that sufficiently threatened him....by NOT informing police immediately he endangered the entire community.
    Bs! That is nothing but you imparting more irrelevant biased bs, because you want him to be guilty and therefore want his actions to suggest guilt, when they really don't.


    Quote Originally Posted by year2late View Post
    But, hell yes, I will make a personal judgment!
    And so will I. At least mine is grounded in reality and evidence. Not in made up bs to purposely to suggest guilty.


    Quote Originally Posted by year2late View Post
    And my guess is that most of the law abiding citizens in this country will agree with me.
    You give yourself too much credit.
    That fact of the matter is that people think he is guilty for various of reasons.
    Much of it has to do with the racial makeup the individuals, not reality.
    And those wanting him to be guilty would agree with whatever they think suggests he is.
    The fact is that against the odds he was not found guilty the first time around. That means reasonable people can disagree as to what the evidence says.
    The second time around the odds are even more against the accused.
    That is the system, and it surely doesn't mean he did what he was found guilty of.


    Quote Originally Posted by year2late View Post
    But the reality is...there was no danger except from the guy who murdered the young man.
    No, the reality is that he acted in self defense against a person who was acting as a dangerous thug.
    No credible evidence exists to say he didn't.
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